Re: [PATCH] Add pg_get_database_ddl() function to reconstruct CREATE DATABASE statement - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Akshay Joshi
Subject Re: [PATCH] Add pg_get_database_ddl() function to reconstruct CREATE DATABASE statement
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Msg-id CANxoLDdNZ2N=QJsm5WESne2FYUsie+K3FQM2L8ZzhgVi3eU4Ug@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: [PATCH] Add pg_get_database_ddl() function to reconstruct CREATE DATABASE statement  (Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de>)
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The v3 patch adds a check for the CONNECT privilege on the target database for pg_get_database_ddl(). This aligns its security model with functions like pg_database_size(). Note that revoking permissions on the pg_database table alone is insufficient to restrict DDL access; users must manually revoke permission on the pg_get_database_ddl() function itself if restriction is desired.

Attached is the v3 patch ready for review.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 4:42 PM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:
On 2025-Nov-13, Quan Zongliang wrote:

> A more specific example. Originally, it was impossible to obtain the
> definition of "testdb" by accessing pg_database:
>
>   postgres=> SELECT * FROM pg_database WHERE datname='testdb';
>   ERROR:  permission denied for table pg_database

Hmm.  So I was thinking that running things in this mode (where catalog
access is restricted) has never been supported.  But you're right that
we would be opening a hole that we don't have today, because if the
admin closes down permissions on pg_database, then this new function
would be a way to obtain information that the user can't currently
obtain.

My further point was to be that you still need to obtain a list of
database names or OIDs in order to do anything of value.  But it turns
out that this is extremely easy and quick to do, with something like

SELECT i, pg_describe_object('pg_database'::regclass, i, 0)
FROM generate_series(1, 1_000_000) i
WHERE pg_describe_object('pg_database'::regclass, i, 0) IS NOT NULL;

... and with this function, the user could again obtain everything about
the database even when they can't read the catalog directly.

Maybe checking privs for the database being dumped is enough protection
against this -- the equivalent of has_database_privilege( ..., 'CONNECT')
I suppose.

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