Re: Does PostgreSQL check database integrity at startup? - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Melvin Davidson
Subject Re: Does PostgreSQL check database integrity at startup?
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In response to Re: Does PostgreSQL check database integrity at startup?  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
Greetings Alban,

* Alban Hertroys (haramrae@gmail.com) wrote:
> In fact, I don't see it mentioned explicitly anywhere, but are we actually looking at a problem?

From the discussion in the google barman group, it's clear that the file
shouldn't be zero bytes in this specific case.

> I'm not convinced by the argument that a CRC check of a 0 byte file on a standby would not detect corruption. At the least, the CRC would be different or we would be left with a CRC on the master that we can't match any CRC's on the slave to if the file is larger on the master.

As discussed, files on the primary can be different at a byte level from
those on replicas and still be perfectly valid and correct, for a
variety of reasons from hint bit differences to differences due to the
replica not being at exactly the same point as the primary.

> If CRC's can be relied on to detect corruption (which they were designed to do), then that answers Edson's question.

The checksums included in PG are page-level and therefore there simply
isn't one to look at if the file is zero bytes.

Thanks!

Stephen

Steve Atkins and Stephen Frost,

You both remind me of gawkers at a disaster, pointing out "mistakes" that
first responders are making, but doing nothing yourselves to help.

My query works as designed and has done so for two years. It shows the
filenames for schemas and tables in the database. If you don't like it,
TOO BAD! Shame on you! Use your brains and write your own query.
Nuff said, I shall reply no more.

--
Melvin Davidson
I reserve the right to fantasize.  Whether or not you
wish to share my fantasy is entirely up to you.

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