Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..." - Mailing list pgadmin-hackers

From Aditya Toshniwal
Subject Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."
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In response to Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."  (Dave Page <dave.page@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: Rename context "Properties..." menu to "Edit Object..."  (Dave Page <dave.page@enterprisedb.com>)
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Hi,

On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:22 PM Dave Page <dave.page@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
Hi

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 11:07, Aditya Toshniwal <aditya.toshniwal@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
Hi Dave/Hackers,

After thinking more about it, I now have a different proposal. We should club all object related stuff under a single tab.
Basically, we can have one tab say - Object Info and under that tab we will have sub tabs/layout - Summary, SQL, Statistics, Dependents and Dependencies. Users can re-shuffle the tabs layout under the Object Info tab as per choice. The advantage of this would be less cluttered tabs, more space for other tabs and all object related tabs under one umbrella.

To Summarise, the default tabs would be - Dashboard, Object Info, Processes, <more tools as opened>...

Well that won't happen for 7.0...

I'm not entirely against the idea, but it's one of those things that I think I'd want to see before committing to. I can envisage what it would look like, but not how it would feel to use.
Then I should probably revert the "Edit Object..." back to "Properties..." as before until decide on something. 
 

Thoughts?


On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:24 PM Aditya Toshniwal <aditya.toshniwal@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 3:59 PM Dave Page <dave.page@enterprisedb.com> wrote:


On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 11:11, Aditya Toshniwal <aditya.toshniwal@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
Hi Hackers,

One of the users had raised a concern regarding confusing "Properties" label - one on the tab (read only) and another one on context(to edit) - https://github.com/pgadmin-org/pgadmin4/issues/4734. We are using the label "Edit the object" on the Edit button of the properties tab already.
So I suggest we should rename the context "Properties..." to "Edit Object..." 
for consistency as well as to make it more meaningful.

Thoughts?

I disagree. "Properties" is the standard name for that type of dialogue throughout Windows and many/most Linux windowing systems (e.g. Gnome). On macOS, the equivalent is "Get Info".  I don't think we should deviate from a few decades of use of that name based on a single ticket (if anything, maybe we should make it say "Get Info" when the UI is displayed on a mac).

Dave's point in his bug report is mostly that we also use the term "Properties" for the panel in the main UI in which we display some properties (but not all, and sometimes extra, over what is in the dialogue). I would not object to renaming that panel to "Object Summary" or similar, to correspond with "Object Explorer".

Which then leads to another thought - we've used one-word naming in the past for tabs. We now have "Object Explorer", and I just suggested "Object Summary" - but those imply we should also have "Object Dependencies", "Object Dependents", and "Object SQL", which I definitely do not like.

So maybe everything should have a one word label?
I am fine with renaming the tab instead of the context menu. We can rename the "Properties" tab to just "Summary"/"Info" and everything works as before. We don't need to add "Object" to tabs.

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Dave Page
VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
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Thanks,
Aditya Toshniwal
pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
"Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"


--
Thanks,
Aditya Toshniwal
pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
"Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"


--
Dave Page
VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
Twitter: @pgsnake

EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com


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Thanks,
Aditya Toshniwal
pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
"Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"

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