Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Peter Smith
Subject Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby
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Msg-id CAHut+Psgm2NhzJCi7ZxhpdnuDG+tY34DpnrbXBiAHt1Oa=2Sew@mail.gmail.com
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In response to RE: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby  ("Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj.fnst@fujitsu.com>)
Responses Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby
RE: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby
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On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 2:51 PM Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)
<houzj.fnst@fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2024 12:23 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
...
> > ======
> > src/backend/replication/slot.c
> >
> > 2. validate_standby_slots
> >
> > + else if (!ReplicationSlotCtl)
> > + {
> > + /*
> > + * We cannot validate the replication slot if the replication slots'
> > + * data has not been initialized. This is ok as we will validate the
> > + * specified slot when waiting for them to catch up. See
> > + * StandbySlotsHaveCaughtup for details.
> > + */
> > + }
> > + else
> > + {
> > + /*
> > + * If the replication slots' data have been initialized, verify if the
> > + * specified slots exist and are logical slots.
> > + */
> > + LWLockAcquire(ReplicationSlotControlLock, LW_SHARED);
> >
> > IMO that 2nd comment does not need to say "If the replication slots'
> > data have been initialized," because that is implicit from the if/else.
>
> Removed.

I only meant to suggest removing the 1st part, not the entire comment.
I thought it is still useful to have a comment like:

/* Check that the specified slots exist and are logical slots.*/

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And, here are some review comments for v103-0001.

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Commit message

1.
Additionally, The SQL functions pg_logical_slot_get_changes,
pg_logical_slot_peek_changes and pg_replication_slot_advance are modified
to wait for the replication slots mentioned in 'standby_slot_names' to
catch up before returning.

~

(use the same wording as previous in this message)

/mentioned in/specified in/

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doc/src/sgml/config.sgml

2.
+        Additionally, when using the replication management functions
+        <link linkend="pg-replication-slot-advance">
+        <function>pg_replication_slot_advance</function></link>,
+        <link linkend="pg-logical-slot-get-changes">
+        <function>pg_logical_slot_get_changes</function></link>, and
+        <link linkend="pg-logical-slot-peek-changes">
+        <function>pg_logical_slot_peek_changes</function></link>,
+        with failover enabled logical slots, the functions will wait for the
+        physical slots specified in <varname>standby_slot_names</varname> to
+        confirm WAL receipt before proceeding.
+       </para>

It says "the ... functions" twice so maybe reword it slightly.

BEFORE
Additionally, when using the replication management functions
pg_replication_slot_advance, pg_logical_slot_get_changes, and
pg_logical_slot_peek_changes, with failover enabled logical slots, the
functions will wait for the physical slots specified in
standby_slot_names to confirm WAL receipt before proceeding.

SUGGESTION
Additionally, the replication management functions
pg_replication_slot_advance, pg_logical_slot_get_changes, and
pg_logical_slot_peek_changes, when used with failover enabled logical
slots, will wait for the physical slots specified in
standby_slot_names to confirm WAL receipt before proceeding.

(Actually the "will wait ... before proceeding" is also a bit tricky,
so below is another possible rewording)

SUGGESTION #2
Additionally, the replication management functions
pg_replication_slot_advance, pg_logical_slot_get_changes, and
pg_logical_slot_peek_changes, when used with failover enabled logical
slots, will block until all physical slots specified in
standby_slot_names have confirmed WAL receipt.

~~~

3.
+       <note>
+        <para>
+         Value <literal>*</literal> is not accepted as it is inappropriate to
+         block logical replication for physical slots that either lack
+         associated standbys or have standbys associated that are not enabled
+         for replication slot synchronization. (see
+         <xref linkend="logicaldecoding-replication-slots-synchronization"/>).
+        </para>
+       </note>

Why does the document need to provide an excuse/reason for the rule?
You could just say something like:

SUGGESTION
The slots must be named explicitly. For example, specifying wildcard
values like <literal>*</literal> is not permitted.

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doc/src/sgml/func.sgml

4.
@@ -28150,7 +28150,7 @@ postgres=# SELECT '0/0'::pg_lsn +
pd.segment_number * ps.setting::int + :offset
       </row>

       <row>
-       <entry role="func_table_entry"><para role="func_signature">
+       <entry id="pg-logical-slot-get-changes"
role="func_table_entry"><para role="func_signature">
         <indexterm>
          <primary>pg_logical_slot_get_changes</primary>
         </indexterm>
@@ -28177,7 +28177,7 @@ postgres=# SELECT '0/0'::pg_lsn +
pd.segment_number * ps.setting::int + :offset
       </row>

       <row>
-       <entry role="func_table_entry"><para role="func_signature">
+       <entry id="pg-logical-slot-peek-changes"
role="func_table_entry"><para role="func_signature">
         <indexterm>
          <primary>pg_logical_slot_peek_changes</primary>
         </indexterm>
@@ -28232,7 +28232,7 @@ postgres=# SELECT '0/0'::pg_lsn +
pd.segment_number * ps.setting::int + :offset
       </row>

       <row>
-       <entry role="func_table_entry"><para role="func_signature">
+       <entry id="pg-replication-slot-advance"
role="func_table_entry"><para role="func_signature">
         <indexterm>
          <primary>pg_replication_slot_advance</primary>
         </indexterm>

Should these 3 functions say something about how their behaviour is
affected by 'standby_slot_names' and give a link back to the GUC
'standby_slot_names' docs?

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src/backend/replication/slot.c

5. StandbySlotsHaveCaughtup

+ if (!slot)
+ {
+ /*
+ * If the provided slot does not exist, report a message and exit
+ * the loop. It is possible for a user to specify a slot name in
+ * standby_slot_names that does not exist just before the server
+ * startup. The GUC check_hook(validate_standby_slots) cannot
+ * validate such a slot during startup as the ReplicationSlotCtl
+ * shared memory is not initialized at that time. It is also
+ * possible for a user to drop the slot in standby_slot_names
+ * afterwards.
+ */

5a.
Minor rewording to make this code comment more similar to the next one:

SUGGESTION
If a slot name provided in standby_slot_names does not exist, report a
message and exit the loop. A user can specify a slot name that does
not exist just before the server startup...

~

5b.
+ /*
+ * If a logical slot name is provided in standby_slot_names,
+ * report a message and exit the loop. Similar to the non-existent
+ * case, it is possible for a user to specify a logical slot name
+ * in standby_slot_names before the server startup, or drop an
+ * existing physical slot and recreate a logical slot with the
+ * same name.
+ */

/it is possible for a user to specify/a user can specify/

~~~

6. WaitForStandbyConfirmation

+ /*
+ * We wait for the slots in the standby_slot_names to catch up, but we
+ * use a timeout (1s) so we can also check if the standby_slot_names
+ * has been changed.
+ */

Remove some of the "we".

SUGGESTION
Wait for the slots in the standby_slot_names to catch up, but use a
timeout (1s) so we can also check if the standby_slot_names has been
changed.

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src/backend/replication/walsender.c

7. NeedToWaitForStandby

+/*
+ * Returns true if not all standbys have caught up to the flushed position
+ * (flushed_lsn) when failover_slot is true; otherwise, returns false.
+ *
+ * If returning true, the function sets the appropriate wait event in
+ * wait_event; otherwise, wait_event is set to 0.
+ */

The function comment refers to 'failover_slot' but IMO needs to be
worded differently because 'failover_slot' is not a parameter anymore.

~~~

8. NeedToWaitForWal

+/*
+ * Returns true if we need to wait for WALs to be flushed to disk, or if not
+ * all standbys have caught up to the flushed position (flushed_lsn) when
+ * failover_slot is true; otherwise, returns false.
+ *
+ * If returning true, the function sets the appropriate wait event in
+ * wait_event; otherwise, wait_event is set to 0.
+ */
+static bool
+NeedToWaitForWal(XLogRecPtr target_lsn, XLogRecPtr flushed_lsn,
+ uint32 *wait_event)

Same as above -- Now that 'failover_slot' is not a function parameter,
I thought this should be reworded.

~~~

9. NeedToWaitForWal

+ /*
+ * Check if the standby slots have caught up to the flushed position. It
+ * is good to wait up to flushed position and then let it send the changes
+ * to logical subscribers one by one which are already covered in flushed
+ * position without needing to wait on every change for standby
+ * confirmation. Note that after receiving the shutdown signal, an ERROR
+ * is reported if any slots are dropped, invalidated, or inactive. This
+ * measure is taken to prevent the walsender from waiting indefinitely.
+ */
+ if (NeedToWaitForStandby(target_lsn, flushed_lsn, wait_event))
+ return true;

I felt it was confusing things for this function to also call to the
other one -- it seems an overlapping/muddling of the purpose of these.
I think it will be easier to understand if the calling code just calls
to one or both of these functions as required.

~~~

10.

- WalSndWait(wakeEvents, sleeptime, WAIT_EVENT_WAL_SENDER_WAIT_FOR_WAL);
+ WalSndWait(wakeEvents, sleeptime, wait_event);

Tracing the assignments of the 'wait_event' is a bit tricky... IIUC it
should not be 0 when we got to this point, so maybe it is better to
put Assert(wait_event) before this call?

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Kind Regards,
Peter Smith.
Fujitsu Australia



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