Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Pavel Stehule
Subject Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals
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In response to Re: On-demand running query plans using auto_explain and signals  ("Shulgin, Oleksandr" <oleksandr.shulgin@zalando.de>)
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2015-09-02 11:01 GMT+02:00 Shulgin, Oleksandr <oleksandr.shulgin@zalando.de>:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:

But do we really need the slots mechanism?  Would it not be OK to just let the LWLock do the sequencing of concurrent requests?  Given that we only going to use one message queue per cluster, there's not much concurrency you can gain by introducing slots I believe.

I afraid of problems on production. When you have a queue related to any process, then all problems should be off after end of processes. One message queue per cluster needs restart cluster when some pathological problems are - and you cannot restart cluster in production week, sometimes weeks. The slots are more robust.

Yes, but in your implementation the slots themselves don't have a queue/buffer.  Did you intend to have a message queue per slot?

The message queue cannot be reused, so I expect one slot per caller to be used passing parameters, - message queue will be created/released by demand by caller.
 

What sort of pathological problems are you concerned of?  The communicating backends should just detach from the message queue properly and have some timeout configured to prevent deadlocks.  Other than that, I don't see how having N slots really help the problem: in case of pathological problems you will just deplete them all sooner or later.

I afraid of unexpected problems :) - any part of signal handling or multiprocess communication is fragile. Slots are simple and simply attached to any process without necessity to alloc/free some memory.

Pavel
 

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Alex


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