Re: plpgsql - DECLARE - cannot to use %TYPE or %ROWTYPE for composite types - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Pavel Stehule
Subject Re: plpgsql - DECLARE - cannot to use %TYPE or %ROWTYPE for composite types
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Msg-id CAFj8pRCBa+W7AJqJMNbqYdJROx8s3qes4aZZLQb3F8mTR8+ZXg@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: plpgsql - DECLARE - cannot to use %TYPE or %ROWTYPE for composite types  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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2016-03-17 0:39 GMT+01:00 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>:
Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com> writes:
> On 3/3/16 4:51 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
>> CREATE TABLE a(a int);
>> CREATE TABLE b(a a.a%TYPE)
>>
>> And the people expecting the living relation between table a and table
>> b. So when I do ALTER a.a, then b.a should be changed. What if I drop
>> a.a or drop a?
>>
>> So this is reason, why I don't would this feature in SQL side.

> I don't buy that. plpgsql doesn't work that way, so why would this?
> *especially* with the %TYPE decorator.

Yeah.  The %TYPE decorator doesn't work like that in the core parser
either: when you use it, the referenced type is determined immediately
and then it's just as if you'd written that type name to begin with.
I do not see a reason for any of these "type operators" to work
differently.

Another analogy that might help make the point is

        set search_path = a;
        create table myschema.tab(f1 mytype);
        set search_path = b;

If there are types "mytype" in both schemas a and b, is myschema.tab.f1
now of type b.mytype?  No.  The meaning of the type reference is
determined when the command executes, and then you're done.

This is valid for PostgreSQL. I am not sure if it is true in Oracle, if %TYPE means only reference to type, or %TYPE holds reference to original object - and when you change the original object, then the function is invalidated.

Using %TYPE with create time only semantic has not big practical benefit. But when %TYPE enforce all life dependency, then I have guaranteed so change on original object will be propagated to depend object. With all advantages and disadvantages.

Postgres uses %TYPE in create time only semantic - but it is not big issue in PLpgSQL, because the creation time there is often - every first execution in session.

The usage of %TYPE outer PL/pgSQL is probably only in FK. But nothing similar is in standard, and I don't see a reason, why we should to implement it. In this moment I don't see any important use case.

Pavel
 

                        regards, tom lane

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