Re: dropdb --force - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Pavel Stehule
Subject Re: dropdb --force
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Msg-id CAFj8pRASJk_c4TnM0s_n_N69ytCMCVzwGoo0bT_vJsHopQuQBw@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: dropdb --force  (Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: dropdb --force  (Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>)
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pá 25. 10. 2019 v 4:55 odesílatel Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> napsal:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 8:22 PM Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> čt 24. 10. 2019 v 11:10 odesílatel Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> napsal:
>>
>> While making some changes in the patch, I noticed that in
>> TerminateOtherDBBackends, there is a race condition where after we
>> release the ProcArrayLock, the backend process to which we decided to
>> send a signal exits by itself and the same pid can be assigned to
>> another backend which is connected to some other database.  This leads
>> to terminating a wrong backend.  I think we have some similar race
>> condition at few other places like in pg_terminate_backend(),
>> ProcSleep() and CountOtherDBBackends().  I think here the risk is a
>> bit more because there could be a long list of pids.
>>
>> One idea could be that we write a new function similar to IsBackendPid
>> which takes dbid and ensures that pid belongs to that database and use
>> that before sending kill signal, but still it will not be completely
>> safe.  But, I think it can be closer to cases like we already have in
>> code.
>>
>> Another possible idea could be to use the SendProcSignal mechanism
>> similar to how we have used it in CancelDBBackends() to allow the
>> required backends to exit by themselves.  This might be safer.
>>
>> I am not sure if we can entirely eliminate this race condition and
>> whether it is a good idea to accept such a race condition even though
>> it exists in other parts of code.  What do you think?
>>
>> BTW, I have added/revised some comments in the code and done few other
>> cosmetic changes, the result of which is attached.
>
>
> Tomorrow I'll check variants that you mentioned.
>
> We sure so there are not any new connect to removed database, because we hold lock there.
>

Right.

> So check if oid db is same should be enough.
>

We can do this before sending a kill signal but is it enough?  Because
as soon as we release ProcArrayLock anytime the other process can exit
and a new process can use its pid.  I think this is more of a
theoretical risk and might not be easy to hit, but still, we can't
ignore it.

yes, there is a theoretical risk probably - the released pid should near current fresh pid from range 0 .. pid_max.

Probably the best solutions is enhancing SendProcSignal and using it here and fix CountOtherDBBackends.

Alternative solution can be killing in block 50 processes and recheck. I'll try to write both and you can decide for one

Pavel


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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
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