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From Dilip Kumar
Subject Re: parallel vacuum options/syntax
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In response to parallel vacuum options/syntax  (Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: parallel vacuum options/syntax  (Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>)
Re: parallel vacuum options/syntax  (Mahendra Singh <mahi6run@gmail.com>)
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:39 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am starting a new thread for some of the decisions for a parallel vacuum in the hope to get feedback from more
people. There are mainly two points for which we need some feedback. 
>
> 1. Tomas Vondra has pointed out on the main thread [1] that by default the parallel vacuum should be enabled similar
towhat we do for Create Index.  As proposed, the patch enables it only when the user specifies it (ex. Vacuum (Parallel
2)<tbl_name>;).   One of the arguments in favor of enabling it by default as mentioned by Tomas is "It's pretty much
thesame thing we did with vacuum throttling - it's disabled for explicit vacuum by default, but you can enable it. If
you'reworried about VACUUM causing issues, you should set cost delay.".  Some of the arguments against enabling it are
thatit will lead to use of more resources (like CPU, I/O) which users might or might like. 
>
> Now, if we want to enable it by default, we need a way to disable it as well and along with that, we need a way for
usersto specify a parallel degree.  I have mentioned a few reasons why we need a parallel degree for this operation in
theemail [2] on the main thread. 
>
> If parallel vacuum is *not* enabled by default, then I think the current way to enable is fine which is as follows:
> Vacuum (Parallel 2) <tbl_name>;
>
> Here, if the user doesn't specify parallel_degree, then we internally decide based on number of indexes that support
aparallel vacuum with a maximum of max_parallel_maintenance_workers. 
>
> If the parallel vacuum is enabled by default, then I could think of the following ways:
> (a) Vacuum (disable_parallel) <tbl_name>;  Vacuum (Parallel <parallel_degree>) <tbl_name>;
> (b) Vacuum (Parallel <parallel_degree>) <tbl_name>;  If user specifies parallel_degree as 0, then disable
parallelism.
> (c) ... Any better ideas?

IMHO, it's better to keep the parallelism enables by default.  Because
if the user is giving an explicit vacuum then better to keep it fast
by default.  However, I agree that we can provide an option for the
user to disable it and provide the parallel degree with the vacuum
command something like option (b).
>
> 2. The patch provides a FAST option (based on suggestion by Robert) for a parallel vacuum which will make it behave
likevacuum_cost_delay = 0 which means it will disable throttling.  So, 
> VACUUM (PARALLEL n, FAST) <tbl_name> will allow the parallel vacuum to run without resource throttling.  Tomas thinks
thatwe don't need such an option as the same can be served by setting vacuum_cost_delay = 0 which is a valid argument,
butOTOH, providing an option to the user which can make his life easier is not a bad idea either. 

I agree that there is already an option to run it without cost delay
but there is no harm in providing extra power to the user where he can
run a particular vacuum command without IO throttling.  So +1 for the
FAST option.

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Regards,
Dilip Kumar
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com



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