Re: Non-Compete Challenges for Community Work - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

From Magnus Hagander
Subject Re: Non-Compete Challenges for Community Work
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Msg-id CABUevExB7UY9LRDM7BUNUM9uPN+GL+afgNEEU20CMZPgatw3ag@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Non-Compete Challenges for Community Work  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 at 16:16, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
On Thu, Jan  8, 2026 at 04:14:08PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 at 19:47, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 02:17:10PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>     > I don't know if things are improving and we can ignore the issue, or if
>     > there is some action that can be taken.  Ideas are:
>     >
>     > *  New employees should read employment contracts and ideally have them
>     >    reviewed by an employment lawyer.  It might be difficult, but not
>     >    being able to find a suitable job for a year is clearly worse.
>     >
>     > *  Somehow incentivize companies to limit their non-compete restrictions
>     >    to be more limited, and hopefully not block community involvement.
>
>     I think a question is whether it is wise for the community to be
>     influencing how companies specify compete restrictions in their
>     employment contracts.  Even if the community were successful in making
>     changes that are positive for employees, is this an overreach for the
>     community?
>
>     An idea would be to allow companies to voluntarily submit their
>     non-compete clauses to the community for approval to be listed on some
>     community fair-employment page.  Would any company do that?
>
> Regardless of whether the companies would, I think that's a really bad idea. It
> would amount to us giving what would potentially be seen as legal advice in
> basically all different jurisdictions around the world. We should definitely
> not get into that.
>
> Having some generic recommendations for either not having non-compete clauses
> or explicitly excluding OSS contributions from it is reasonable, but we don't
> want to review any actual texts IMNSHO.

I was thinking we would allow them to be posted publicly, rather than us
reviewing them, though it seems even less likely they would do this.

Oh, just like a list of them basically? "If you go to work for <x> here's what it might look like" but with no judging or comments from the community?

Yeah, I think that's very unlikely that companies will be interested in that. And even if they are, I bet they wouldn't update them as their templates change anyway... 

//Magnus

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