Re: Implement waiting for wal lsn replay: reloaded - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

Hi,

On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 9:12 PM Xuneng Zhou <xunengzhou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 7:54 PM Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 9:29 AM Xuneng Zhou <xunengzhou@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 1:43 PM Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Could this be causing the recent flapping failures on CI/macOS in
> > > > recovery/031_recovery_conflict?  I didn't have time to dig personally
> > > > but f30848cb looks relevant:
> > > >
> > > > Waiting for replication conn standby's replay_lsn to pass 0/03467F58 on primary
> > > > error running SQL: 'psql:<stdin>:1: ERROR:  canceling statement due to
> > > > conflict with recovery
> > > > DETAIL:  User was or might have been using tablespace that must be dropped.'
> > > > while running 'psql --no-psqlrc --no-align --tuples-only --quiet
> > > > --dbname port=25195
> > > > host=/var/folders/g9/7rkt8rt1241bwwhd3_s8ndp40000gn/T/LqcCJnsueI
> > > > dbname='postgres' --file - --variable ON_ERROR_STOP=1' with sql 'WAIT
> > > > FOR LSN '0/03467F58' WITH (MODE 'standby_replay', timeout '180s',
> > > > no_throw);' at /Users/admin/pgsql/src/test/perl/PostgreSQL/Test/Cluster.pm
> > > > line 2300.
> > > >
> > > > https://cirrus-ci.com/task/5771274900733952
> > > >
> > > > The master branch in time-descending order, macOS tasks only:
> > > >
> > > >      task_id      | substring |  status
> > > > ------------------+-----------+-----------
> > > >  6460882231754752 | c970bdc0  | FAILED
> > > >  5771274900733952 | 6ca8506e  | FAILED
> > > >  6217757068361728 | 63ed3bc7  | FAILED
> > > >  5980650261446656 | ae283736  | FAILED
> > > >  6585898394976256 | 5f13999a  | COMPLETED
> > > >  4527474786172928 | 7f9acc9b  | COMPLETED
> > > >  4826100842364928 | e8d4e94a  | COMPLETED
> > > >  4540563027918848 | b9ee5f2d  | FAILED
> > > >  6358528648019968 | c5af141c  | FAILED
> > > >  5998005284765696 | e212a0f8  | COMPLETED
> > > >  6488580526178304 | b85d5dc0  | FAILED
> > > >  5034091344560128 | 7dc95cc3  | ABORTED
> > > >  5688692477526016 | bb048e31  | COMPLETED
> > > >  5481187977723904 | d351063e  | COMPLETED
> > > >  5101831568752640 | f30848cb  | COMPLETED <-- the change
> > > >  6395317408497664 | 3f33b63d  | COMPLETED
> > > >  6741325208354816 | 877ae5db  | COMPLETED
> > > >  4594007789010944 | de746e0d  | COMPLETED
> > > >  6497208998035456 | 461b8cc9  | COMPLETED
> > >
> > > Thanks for raising this issue. I think it is related to f30848cb after
> > > some analysis. I'll prepare a follow-up patch to fix it.
> >
> > Sorry, I've mistakenly referenced this report from commit [1].  I
> > thought it was related, but it appears to be not.  [1] is related to
> > the report I've got from Ruikai Peng off-list.
> >
> > Regarding the present failure, could it happen before ExecWaitStmt()
> > calls PopActiveSnapshot() and InvalidateCatalogSnapshot()?  If so, we
> > should do preliminary efforts to release these snapshots.
> >
> > 1. https://git.postgresql.org/pg/commitdiff/bf308639bfcfa38541e24733e074184153a8ab7f
> >
>
> I agree that moving PopActiveSnapshot() and
> InvalidateCatalogSnapshot() to the very beginning of ExecWaitStmt()
> appears to be a sensible optimization. However, in this particular
> failure scenario, it may not address the issue.
>
> For tablespace conflicts, recovery conflict resolution uses
> GetConflictingVirtualXIDs(InvalidTransactionId, InvalidOid), which
> returns all active backends, regardless of their snapshot state. As a
> result, even if all snapshots are released at the start of
> ExecWaitStmt(), the session would still be canceled during replay of
> DROP TABLESPACE.
>
> Given this, I am considering handling this conflict class explicitly:
> if the WAIT FOR statement is terminated and the error indicates a
> recovery conflict, we fall back to the existing polling-based
> approach.
>
> * Ask everybody to cancel their queries immediately so we can ensure no
> * temp files remain and we can remove the tablespace. Nuke the entire
> * site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
> *
> * XXX: We could work out the pids of active backends using this
> * tablespace by examining the temp filenames in the directory. We would
> * then convert the pids into VirtualXIDs before attempting to cancel
> * them.
>
> I am also wondering whether this optimization would be helpful.
>

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Best,
Xuneng