Re: pgadmin-for-web is going nowhere - Mailing list pgadmin-hackers

From Robert Eckhardt
Subject Re: pgadmin-for-web is going nowhere
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In response to pgadmin-for-web is going nowhere  (Josh Berkus <josh@berkus.org>)
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Josh, 

I'd be interested in knowing what specific things could be done to make you think that the Web version is no longer the 'ugly stepchild'. 

If I consider our (Pivotal's) current development process then the most honest thing we could say is that the desktop application is our afterthought. All of our development is done in the browser, our acceptance environment is an application pushed into a garden container hosted in the cloud. 

Admittedly, we haven't focused on the installation experience so if you could explain why it is so painful we could look at merging some of the things we are doing for acceptance into the application itself for distribution. 

-- Rob

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@berkus.org> wrote:
Folks,

Installing pgadmin-for-web is painful, poorly documented, and broken.
As a result, it's not considered a real UI by anyone not on this team.

Six months ago, I jumped on this with the goal of solving it, partly
through use of linux containers.  However, I'm full stop because of the
emphasis on (a) having only one package which is both desktop and web,
and (b) treating the web version as the ugly stepchild.

See: https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/2495#change-7635

If you read the conversation on pgsql-advocacy, for example, you'll see
that even people in our own community regard pgAdmin4 as not production
quality software.

As such, I'm done.  When y'all decide to get real with caring about
users' ability to install pgadmin for web, ping me.

--Josh Berkus


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