Re: Parallel Seq Scan vs kernel read ahead - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Amit Kapila
Subject Re: Parallel Seq Scan vs kernel read ahead
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In response to Parallel Seq Scan vs kernel read ahead  (Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>)
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Re: Parallel Seq Scan vs kernel read ahead
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On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:24 AM Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello hackers,
>
> Parallel sequential scan relies on the kernel detecting sequential
> access, but we don't make the job easy.  The resulting striding
> pattern works terribly on strict next-block systems like FreeBSD UFS,
> and degrades rapidly when you add too many workers on sliding window
> systems like Linux.
>
> Demonstration using FreeBSD on UFS on a virtual machine, taking ball
> park figures from iostat:
>
>   create table t as select generate_series(1, 200000000)::int i;
>
>   set max_parallel_workers_per_gather = 0;
>   select count(*) from t;
>   -> execution time 13.3s, average read size = ~128kB, ~500MB/s
>
>   set max_parallel_workers_per_gather = 1;
>   select count(*) from t;
>   -> execution time 24.9s, average read size = ~32kB, ~250MB/s
>
> Note the small read size, which means that there was no read
> clustering happening at all: that's the logical block size of this
> filesystem.
>
> That explains some complaints I've heard about PostgreSQL performance
> on that filesystem: parallel query destroys I/O performance.
>
> As a quick experiment, I tried teaching the block allocated to
> allocate ranges of up 64 blocks at a time, ramping up incrementally,
> and ramping down at the end, and I got:
>

Good experiment.  IIRC, we have discussed a similar idea during the
development of this feature but we haven't seen any better results by
allocating in ranges on the systems we have tried.  So, we want with
the current approach which is more granular and seems to allow better
parallelism.  I feel we need to ensure that we don't regress
parallelism in existing cases, otherwise, the idea sounds promising to
me.

-- 
With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com



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