On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:09 PM Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> * Robert Haas (robertmhaas@gmail.com) wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:30 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Isn't some operations where at the end we directly call heap_sync
> > > > without writing WAL will have a similar problem as well?
> > >
> > > Maybe. Can you give an example?
> >
> > Looking through the code, I found two cases where we do this. One is
> > a bulk insert operation with wal_level = minimal, and the other is
> > CLUSTER or VACUUM FULL with wal_level = minimal. In both of these
> > cases we are generating new blocks whose LSNs will be 0/0. So, I think
> > we need a rule that if the server is asked to back up all blocks in a
> > file with LSNs > some threshold LSN, it must also include any blocks
> > whose LSN is 0/0. Those blocks are either uninitialized or are
> > populated without WAL logging, so they always need to be copied.
>
> I'm not sure I see a way around it but this seems pretty unfortunate-
> every single incremental backup will have all of those included even
> though the full backup likely also does
>
Yeah, this is quite unfortunate. One more thing to note is that the
same is true for other operation like 'create index' (ex. nbtree
bypasses buffer manager while creating the index, doesn't write wal
for wal_level=minimal and then syncs at the end).
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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
