On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 5:29 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:29 PM osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com
> <osumi.takamichi@fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, May 17, 2021 6:45 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > We allow taking locks on system catalogs, so why prohibit
> > > user_catalog_tables? However, I agree that if we want plugins to acquire the
> > > lock on user_catalog_tables then we should either prohibit decoding of such
> > > relations or do something else to avoid deadlock hazards.
> > OK.
> >
> > Although we have not concluded the range of logical decoding of user_catalog_table
> > (like we should exclude TRUNCATE command only or all operations on that type of table),
> > I'm worried that disallowing the logical decoding of user_catalog_table produces
> > the deadlock still. It's because disabling it by itself does not affect the
> > lock taken by TRUNCATE command. What I have in mind is an example below.
> >
> > (1) plugin (e.g. pgoutput) is designed to take a lock on user_catalog_table.
> > (2) logical replication is set up in synchronous mode.
> > (3) TRUNCATE command takes an access exclusive lock on the user_catalog_table.
> > (4) This time, we don't do anything for the TRUNCATE decoding.
> > (5) the plugin tries to take a lock on the truncated table
> > but, it can't due to the lock by TRUNCATE command.
> >
>
> If you skip decoding of truncate then we won't invoke plugin API so
> step 5 will be skipped.
>
I think you were right here even if skip step-4, the plugin might take
a lock on user_catalog_table for something else. I am not sure but I
think we should prohibit truncate on user_catalog_tables as we
prohibit truncate on system catalog tables (see below [1]) if we want
plugin to lock them, otherwise, as you said it might lead to deadlock.
For the matter, I think we should once check all other operations
where we can take an exclusive lock on [user]_catalog_table, say
Cluster command, and compare the behavior of same on system catalog
tables.
[1]
postgres=# truncate pg_class;
ERROR: permission denied: "pg_class" is a system catalog
postgres=# cluster pg_class;
ERROR: there is no previously clustered index for table "pg_class"
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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
