Re: gist_trgm_ops '=' operator: planner picks it over btree, ~300x slower - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
| From | Vaibhav Dalvi |
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| Subject | Re: gist_trgm_ops '=' operator: planner picks it over btree, ~300x slower |
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| Msg-id | CA+vB=AGRVyUpku63vwteiZs_Wb=UGgSQK3pw70quCQQmBhTVEA@mail.gmail.com Whole thread |
| In response to | Re: gist_trgm_ops '=' operator: planner picks it over btree, ~300x slower (Vaibhav Dalvi <vaibhav.dalvi@enterprisedb.com>) |
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Hi,
I have added a CommitFest entry for this patch:
https://commitfest.postgresql.org/patch/7401
The CI run there showed that v1 fails on all the Meson-based jobs
(Autoconf was fine). I had updated the Makefile but forgot
contrib/pg_trgm/meson.build, so pg_trgm--1.6--1.7.sql was not
installed and CREATE EXTENSION pg_trgm failed with "no installation
script nor update path for version 1.7". The new pg_trgm_noeq test was
also not listed there.
I have added a CommitFest entry for this patch:
https://commitfest.postgresql.org/patch/7401
The CI run there showed that v1 fails on all the Meson-based jobs
(Autoconf was fine). I had updated the Makefile but forgot
contrib/pg_trgm/meson.build, so pg_trgm--1.6--1.7.sql was not
installed and CREATE EXTENSION pg_trgm failed with "no installation
script nor update path for version 1.7". The new pg_trgm_noeq test was
also not listed there.
PFA v2, which fixes this by adding both to meson.build. There is no
other changes. I have run the full Meson test suite locally and it
passes.
Please have a look.
Regards,
Vaibhav Dalvi
other changes. I have run the full Meson test suite locally and it
passes.
Please have a look.
Regards,
Vaibhav Dalvi
On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 4:32 PM Vaibhav Dalvi <vaibhav.dalvi@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
Hi Andrew,The same patch is applicable.I am re-attaching it for review and for the CF bot to pick up.
Regards,
VaibhavOn Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 9:49 AM Vaibhav Dalvi <vaibhav.dalvi@enterprisedb.com> wrote:Thank you, Andrew for the response and input.I will proceed as you suggested.Thanks,VaibhavOn Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 7:37 PM Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
On 2026-09-02 We 9:29 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
> On 2026-09-02 We 9:00 AM, Alexander Korotkov wrote:
>> Hi, Vaibhav!
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2026 at 2:12 PM Vaibhav Dalvi
>> <vaibhav.dalvi@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>>> I would like to raise an old issue again. David Rowley reported
>>> this same problem back on 2024-09-17, in this[1] thread, but it did not
>>> get any replies.
>>>
>>> I am hitting the same problem, so I am posting it again with three
>>> different patches, since it can badly hurt anyone who has both a
>>> btree and a gist_trgm_ops index on the same column.
>>>
>>> In short: once a table has both a btree index and a gist_trgm_ops
>>> index on the same text column, the planner sometimes picks the GiST
>>> index for a plain equality (=) query, and that GiST plan can be
>>> hundreds of times slower than the btree plan for the exact same
>>> query. Below is a small, self-contained test case:
>>>
>>> create extension if not exists pg_trgm;
>>> create table t1 (a varchar(250), b varchar(250), c varchar(250));
>>> create index t1_a_btree on t1 (a);
>>> create index t1_a_gist on t1 using gist (a gist_trgm_ops);
>>> insert into t1 select md5(a::text),md5(a::text),md5(a::text) from
>>> generate_series(1,100000)a;
>>> vacuum freeze analyze t1;
>>>
>>> explain (analyze, buffers) select * from t1 where a = '1234';
>>> QUERY PLAN
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Index Scan using t1_a_gist on t1 (cost=0.28..8.30 rows=1
>>> width=99) (actual time=15.186..15.187 rows=0.00 loops=1)
>>> Index Cond: ((a)::text = '1234'::text)
>>> Buffers: shared hit=1583
>>> Execution Time: 15.242 ms
>>> (4 rows)
>>>
>>> -- disabling the GiST index makes the planner fall back to btree,
>>> -- and the same query becomes ~355x faster:
>>> update pg_index set indisvalid = false where
>>> indexrelid='t1_a_gist'::regclass;
>>> explain (analyze, buffers) select * from t1 where a = '1234';
>>> QUERY PLAN
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Index Scan using t1_a_btree on t1 (cost=0.42..8.44 rows=1
>>> width=99) (actual time=0.022..0.022 rows=0.00 loops=1)
>>> Index Cond: ((a)::text = '1234'::text)
>>> Buffers: shared hit=3
>>> Execution Time: 0.043 ms
>>> (4 rows)
>>>
>>> The estimated cost of both plans is almost the same (8.30 vs 8.44),
>>> but the real cost is not even close. The root cause: GiST's cost
>>> estimate for '=' on gist_trgm_ops does not reflect the real cost of
>>> the scan, so the planner can pick GiST over a much cheaper btree
>>> index, even for people who kept both indexes only for other reasons
>>> (LIKE queries, for example).
>>>
>>> I looked at three different ways to fix this:
>>>
>>> 1) v1-0001-Drop-equality-operator-from-gist_trgm_ops.patch
>>> Stops gist_trgm_ops from offering '=' at all (gin_trgm_ops is
>>> untouched, its cost estimator was already fixed for the same issue
>>> in commit cd9479af2af). Small, but it changes the existing
>>> opclass's behavior for anyone already relying on '=' through it.
>>>
>>> 2) v1-0001-gist-trgm-real-signature-stats.patch
>>> Keeps '=' on gist_trgm_ops, and adds a new optional GiST support
>>> function so the opclass can correct the planner's estimate using a
>>> real measurement sampled from the index's own pages, instead of a
>>> guess. It works, but it only helps "column = constant" conditions
>>> (not joins), a small index still falls back to a pessimistic
>>> guess, and it adds uncached I/O to every planning call. More
>>> machinery than I'm comfortable with for this.
>>>
>>> 3) v1-0001-Add-gist_trgm_ops_noeq.patch
>>> Adds a second, independently-named opclass, gist_trgm_ops_noeq,
>>> identical to gist_trgm_ops except that it does not register '='
>>> at all. gist_trgm_ops itself is completely untouched; anyone who
>>> wants the safety creates new indexes with the new opclass, or
>>> rebuilds an existing index onto it, and '=' simply cannot reach it
>>> afterward, under any planner settings. No core or planner changes
>>> at all, just a SQL/DDL addition.
>>>
>>> Of the three, (3) is the one I would prefer to take forward. It is
>>> the smallest, safest change: nothing existing changes behavior, there
>>> is no heuristic or cost-model logic to get wrong, and it is easy to
>>> verify its correctness just by looking at the catalog entries. (1)
>>> fixes the
>>> regression but forces the choice on everyone using gist_trgm_ops for
>>> '=' today, and (2) is real but has enough rough edges (documented in
>>> that patch) that I would not want to see it committed as-is.
>>>
>>> Would appreciate the community's view on this, or any other approach
>>> I may have missed.
>>>
>>> Thank you, @Andrew Dunstan for the offline inputs.
>> I think 2 looks like the right direction. But I wonder about the cost
>> of the cost estimate. Scanning 30 random index pages could be easily
>> way more costly than the query execution. What about letting GiST
>> opclass store custom statistics which would reflect index quality
>> (like key overlapping degree per page level or something), then use it
>> for fast scan cost estimation?
>>
>
> Yes, and I think v2 has serious limitations in any case. The best way
> forward might be for us to have a new AM hook that lets an opclass
> walk its own pages during ANALYZE (bounded, since ANALYZE is already
> expected to do I/O and is rate-limited by autovacuum, unlike planning)
> and persist something like your per-level overlap measure through that
> same path.
>
> But that's a large project.
>
> Meanwhile users encountering the problem can create the new
> opfamily/opclass for themselves as in patch 3, and the recreate their
> indexes using the new opclass. Or we could adopt patch 3 of we decide
> not to go for a more thorough solution.
>
>
>
In the absence of further discussion, I suggest Vaibhav creates a CF
entry for item 3. It will cost almost nothing and provide users a
reasonable way forward.
cheers
andrew
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