Re: Table AM Interface Enhancements - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: Table AM Interface Enhancements
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Msg-id CA+Tgmoba34zzq1uv9dNqFos5FT9xmA4VmfWsMPPnioyjTF9QBw@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Table AM Interface Enhancements  (Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Table AM Interface Enhancements
Re: Table AM Interface Enhancements
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 5:28 AM Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I think so.  Table AM API deals with TIDs and block numbers, but
> doesn't force on what they actually mean.  For example, in ZedStore
> [1], data is stored on per-column B-trees, where TID used in table AM
> is just a logical key of that B-trees.  Similarly, blockNumber is a
> range for B-trees.
>
> c6fc50cb4028 and 041b96802ef are putting to acquire_sample_rows() an
> assumption that we are sampling physical blocks as they are stored in
> data files.  That couldn't anymore be some "logical" block numbers
> with meaning only table AM implementation knows.  That was pointed out
> by Andres [2].  I'm not sure if ZedStore is alive, but there could be
> other table AM implementations like this, or other implementations in
> development, etc.  Anyway, I don't feel good about narrowing the API,
> which is there from pg12.

I spent some time looking at this. I think it's valid to complain
about the tighter coupling, but c6fc50cb4028 is there starting in v14,
so I don't think I understand why the situation after 041b96802ef is
materially worse than what we've had for the last few releases. I
think it is worse in the sense that, before, you could dodge the
problem without defining USE_PREFETCH, and now you can't, but I don't
think we can regard nonphysical block numbers as a supported scenario
on that basis.

But maybe I'm not correctly understanding the situation?

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Robert Haas
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