Re: Statistics Import and Export - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: Statistics Import and Export
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Msg-id CA+Tgmoaiyv5hA_LrdDyU-=Fu28R3ZhE=mSRfxj7x0ajDBM0Njg@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Statistics Import and Export  (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>)
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 3:36 PM Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
> I suspect that this is a *really* bad idea. It's very very hard to get inplace
> updates right. We have several unfixed correctness bugs that are related to
> the use of inplace updates.  I really don't think it's wise to add additional
> interfaces that can reach inplace updates unless there's really no other
> alternative (like not being able to assign an xid in VACUUM to be able to deal
> with anti-xid-wraparound-shutdown systems).

I strongly agree. I think shipping this feature in any form that uses
in-place updates is a bad idea. I believe that the chances that we
will regret that decision are high. I take Corey's point that bloating
pg_class isn't great either ... but if that's a big problem, I believe
the solution is to find a way to get the right values into those rows
when they are first created, not to use in-place updates after the
fact.

Honestly, I'd go further than Andres did: even when there's really no
alternative, that doesn't mean in-place updates are a good idea. It
just means they're the best thing we've been able to come up with so
far. I think we're going to keep finding bugs until we remove every
last in-place update in the system.

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Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com



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