Re: Error on failed COMMIT - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: Error on failed COMMIT
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Msg-id CA+TgmoZEfwyydH_K2sCugSr_EeS6zNd6EfPJuSfRxkJWbAvY3Q@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Error on failed COMMIT  (Shay Rojansky <roji@roji.org>)
Responses Re: Error on failed COMMIT  (Dave Cramer <davecramer@postgres.rocks>)
Re: Error on failed COMMIT  (Shay Rojansky <roji@roji.org>)
Re: Error on failed COMMIT  (David Fetter <david@fetter.org>)
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 1:56 PM Shay Rojansky <roji@roji.org> wrote:
> As Dave wrote, the problem here isn't with the driver, but with framework or user-code which swallows the initial
exceptionand allows code to continue to the commit. Npgsql (and I'm sure the JDBC driver too) does surface PostgreSQL
errorsas exceptions, and internally tracks the transaction status provided in the CommandComplete message. That means
usershave the ability - but not the obligation - to know about failed transactions, and some frameworks or user coding
patternscould lead to a commit being done on a failed transaction. 

Agreed. All of that can be fixed in the driver, though.

> If we think the current *user-visible* behavior is problematic (commit on failed transaction completes without
throwing),then the only remaining question is where this behavior should be fixed - at the server or at the driver. As
Iwrote above, from the user's perspective it makes no difference - the change would be identical (and just as breaking)
eitherway. So while drivers *could* implement the new behavior, what advantages would that have over doing it at the
server?Some disadvantages do seem clear (repetition of the logic across each driver - leading to inconsistency across
drivers,changing semantics at the driver by turning a non-error into an exception...). 

The advantage is that it doesn't cause a compatibility break.

> > Well, it seems quite possible that there are drivers and applications that don't have this issue; I've never had a
problemwith this behavior, and I've been using PostgreSQL for something like two decades [...] 
>
> If we are assuming that most user code is already written to avoid committing on failed transactions (by tracking
transactionstate etc.), then making this change at the server wouldn't affect those applications; the only applications
affectedwould be those that do commit on failed transactions today, and it could be argued that those are likely to be
brokentoday (since drivers today don't really expose the rollback in an accessible/discoverable way). 

libpq exposes it just fine, so I think you're overgeneralizing here.

As I said upthread, I think one of the things that would be pretty
badly broken by this is psql -f something.sql, where something.sql
contains a series of blocks of the form "begin; something; something;
something; commit;". Right now whichever transactions succeed get
committed. With the proposed change, if one transaction block fails,
it'll merge with all of the following blocks. You may think that
nobody is doing this sort of thing, but I think people are, and that
they will come after us with pitchforks if we break it.

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Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



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