On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:49 AM Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 08:10:58AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> > It's fine if things are updated as well -- it's just you need to make
> > sure that those places know whether or not they are supposed to be
> > doing those updates. Again, why can't we just pass down a value
> > telling them "do reindex-style progress updates" or "do cluster-style
> > progress updates" or "do no progress updates"?
>
> That's invasive. CREATE INDEX reporting goes pretty deep into the
> tree, with steps dedicated to the builds and scans of btree (nbtsort.c
> for example) and hash index AMs. In this case we have something that
> does somewhat what you are looking for with report_progress which gets
> set to true only for VACUUM. If we were to do something like that, we
> would also need to keep some sort of mapping regarding which command
> ID (as defined by ProgressCommandType) is able to use which set of
> parameter flags (as defined by the arguments of
> pgstat_progress_update_param() and its multi_* cousin). Then comes
> the issue that some parameters may be used by multiple command types,
> while other don't (REINDEX and CREATE INDEX have some shared
> mapping).
Well, if CREATE INDEX progress reporting can't be reasonably done
within the current infrastructure, then it should be reverted for v12
and not committed again until somebody upgrades the infrastructure.
I admit that I was a bit suspicious about that commit, but I figured
Alvaro knew what he was doing and didn't study it in any depth. And
perhaps he did know what he was doing and will disagree with your
assessment. But so far I haven't heard an idea for evolving the
infrastructure that sounds more than half-baked.
It's generally clear, though, that the existing infrastructure is not
well-suited to progress reporting for code that bounces all over the
tree. It's not clear that *any* infrastructure is *entirely*
well-suited to do that; such problems are inherently complex. But this
is just a very simple system which was designed to be simple and very
low cost to use, and it may be that it's been stretched outside of its
comfort zone.
--
Robert Haas
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