Re: Query performance with disabled hashjoin and mergejoin - Mailing list pgsql-performance

From Merlin Moncure
Subject Re: Query performance with disabled hashjoin and mergejoin
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Msg-id AANLkTi=0PCO2DHVS2Qy0xr93s3AhiHjL3URavFvu+diN@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Query performance with disabled hashjoin and mergejoin  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>                                 ->  BitmapAnd  (cost=1282.94..1282.94
>>>> rows=1430 width=0) (actual time=5.508..5.508 rows=0 loops=1)
>>>>                                       ->  Bitmap Index Scan on
>>>> news_index_layout_id_state  (cost=0.00..150.14 rows=2587 width=0) (actual
>>>> time=0.909..0.909 rows=3464 loops=1)
>>>>                                             Index Cond: ((layout_id = 8980)
>>>> AND (state = 2))
>>>>                                       ->  BitmapOr (cost=1132.20..1132.20
>>>> rows=20127 width=0) (actual time=4.136..4.136 rows=0 loops=1)
>>>>                                             ->  Bitmap Index Scan on
>>>> news_visible_from  (cost=0.00..1122.09 rows=19976 width=0) (actual
>>>> time=3.367..3.367 rows=19932 loops=1)
>>>>                                                   Index Cond: (visible_from
>>>> IS NULL)
>>>>                                             ->  Bitmap Index Scan on
>>>> news_visible_to  (cost=0.00..9.40 rows=151 width=0) (actual
>>>> time=0.766..0.766 rows=43 loops=1)
>>>>                                                   Index Cond: (1296806570 <=
>>>> visible_to)
>>>
>>> I think this part of the query is the problem.  Since the planner
>>> doesn't support cross-column statistics, it can't spot the correlation
>>> between these different search conditions, resulting in a badly broken
>>> selectivity estimate.
>>>
>>> Sometimes you can work around this by adding a single column, computed
>>> with a trigger, that contains enough information to test the whole
>>> WHERE-clause condition using a single indexable test against the
>>> column value.  Or sometimes you can get around it by partitioning the
>>> data into multiple tables, say with the visible_from IS NULL rows in a
>>> different table from the rest.
>>
>> Why should you need cross column statistics for this case?  You should
>> be able to multiple selectivity from left to right as long as you are
>> doing equality comparisons, yes?
>>
>> Right now the planner is treating
>> select * from foo where (a,b,c) between (1,1,1) and (9,9,9) the same
>> (using selectivity on a) as
>> select * from foo where (a,b,c) between (1,1,5) and (1,1,7)
>>
>> but they are not the same. since in the second query terms a,b are
>> equal, shouldn't you able to multiply the selectivity through?
>
> I'm not quite following that...
>
> The reason I thought cross-column correlations might be relevant is
> that the bitmap index scan on news_visible_from is quite accurate
> (19976 estimated vs. 19932 actual) and the bitmap index scan on
> news_visible_to is tolerably accurate (151 estimated vs. 41 actual)
> but the estimate on the BitmapOr is somehow totally wrong (20127
> estimated vs. 0 actual).  But on further reflection that doesn't make
> much sense.  How can the BitmapOr produce fewer rows than the sum of
> its constituent inputs?
>
> /me scratches head.

my fault -- the point i was making I think was valid but didn't apply
to the op's question: I mistakenly where expression could be converted
to row wise comparison type operation but that wasn't the case...

merlin

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