Re: Adding a range check on the sequence index from the publisher. - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
| From | Chao Li |
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| Subject | Re: Adding a range check on the sequence index from the publisher. |
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| Msg-id | A650033F-0137-46C9-B505-4FA6E0967D5C@gmail.com Whole thread |
| In response to | Re: Adding a range check on the sequence index from the publisher. (Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>) |
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Re: Adding a range check on the sequence index from the publisher.
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| List | pgsql-hackers |
> On Sep 23, 2026, at 12:19, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 7:08 PM Chao Li <li.evan.chao@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sep 23, 2026, at 04:27, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 10:00 PM Chao Li <li.evan.chao@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 22, 2026, at 03:51, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> (CCing Amit as the committer of this feature) >>>>> >>>>> This was originally reported to pgsql-security by Anthropic OSS >>>>> program but the security team considered it as a non-vuln bug since >>>>> it's a v19-beta code, and I'm reporting here on behalf of them as it's >>>>> permitted now. >>>>> >>>>> The reported problem is in sequencesync.c; the sequence >>>>> synchronization worker uses an integer that came back from the >>>>> publisher as a list subscript without checking it, and then writes >>>>> through the resulting pointer. >>>>> >>>>> While it's not a problem in normal cases where the publisher is a >>>>> normal PostgreSQL, it could lead to out-of-bounds writes when the >>>>> publisher is a malicious server looking like a publisher. >>>>> >>>>> Other fields that we get through get_and_validate_seq_info() could >>>>> also get the wrong value but they just show the wrong values rather >>>>> than OOB writes. So I think we need a safeguard only for seqidx. >>>>> >>>>> I've attached the patch to fix it. Feedback is very welcome. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Masahiko Sawada >>>>> Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com >>>>> <v1-0001-Add-a-range-check-on-the-sequence-index-from-the-.patch> >>>> >>>> If the concern here is a malicious publisher, does it also make sense to replace Assert(!isnull) with a runtime checkand fail if seqidx is NULL? >>> >>> I don't think we need it from a security perspective. Even if a >>> malicious publisher returns NULL as seqidx, a garbage value is stored >>> to *seqidx and will fail the new range check. >>> >> >> If a malicious publisher returns NULL for seqidx, the resulting *seqidx will likely be 0. Since 0 passes the range check,the first sequence could be silently selected, which might be incorrect. > > Right. > >> On second thought, however, a malicious publisher could directly return a valid but incorrect seqidx, and we do not seemto have a way to protect against that. From this perspective, checking isnull would not help much. > > Agreed, and I think that is the important point. We have no way to > tell a malicious value from a buggy one, so validating the value > doesn't really make sense. A publisher reporting a wrong last_value is > indistinguishable from a publisher whose sequence really holds that > value, so it can change the sequence on the subscriber whatever we > check. > > I think what we need to fix here is narrower: the case where the > damage goes beyond the sequence being synchronized. The other columns > only lead to a wrong sequence value or a wrong report. seqidx is the > only one that becomes a list subscript, and so we write last_value > through a pointer taken from outside of the list. How about explaining that more explicitly in the comment? For example, the check prevents out-of-bounds access, but cannotprotect against an incorrect index that is still within the valid range. > >> But from another perspective, an Assert is normally used for an internal invariant. Here, however, seqidx is receivedfrom external, so a runtime check seems more reasonable. > > I agree with this in general. But get_and_validate_seq_info() has nine > Assert(!isnull) on columns that all come from the publisher, so > converting only the seqidx one doesn't make the function any more > consistent. A null seqidx leads to a wrong sequence value, which is > the same class of problem as a wrong last_value. > > So I'd like to keep this patch to the range check. If we want to > convert those Asserts I think we should do all nine, as a separate > patch. > No objection here. Best regards, -- Chao Li (Evan) HighGo Software Co., Ltd. https://www.highgo.com/
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