Re: BI tools and postgresql - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Gabriele Bartolini
Subject Re: BI tools and postgresql
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Msg-id 9bdb049edd0aba8acb70212380258ef2@2ndquadrant.it
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In response to Re: BI tools and postgresql  (Chris Curvey <chris@chriscurvey.com>)
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 Hi there,

> I've looked at Pentaho and Jasper, but I have not had much success.
> (Can't remember exactly the issue right now, but I recall that they
> seemed to be huge products and I could never quite figure out how to
> do something simple with them.)

 My advice here is to analyse the requirements and keep separated the BI
 components.

 Open source complete BI suites offered by BIRT, Pentaho and Jasper - to
 name a few - are really good products. I would suggest that - if you
 need to use the full product - you contact their sales representatives.
 Get more information, evaluate them, compare the products and pick one.

 Otherwise, I would simply look for specific products for each of the BI
 phases:

 * good ETL products are Kettle or Talend, both in Java
 * for reporting, I suggest Jasper report (with iReport), in Java again
 * for data mining you can look at Weka or, for in-database data mining
 algorithms in PostgreSQL, MADLib

 I am not sure if you need some tools for OLAP as well (I prefer to
 manage cubes and data marts within Postgres), you might want to look at
 Mondrian for Pentaho (Java).

 In my experience so far, in general the most common tools are for ETL
 and reporting. Data mining is less common (unfortunately), but in
 general it comes after the first two.

 All of the above technologies, require you to invest human resources
 and time in training.

 I prefer to see the BI framework as a set of components, rather than
 one single product. That gives you more flexibility and allows you to
 change a tool for a specific component in the future without changing
 the whole architecture.

 Of course, I take it for granted that you have already thought about
 the data warehouse layer (in case you have one).

 Cheers,
 Gabriele

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