Re: PG 12 draft release notes - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Ian Barwick
Subject Re: PG 12 draft release notes
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Msg-id 8100b384-be37-652f-0ef9-de9c7069417e@2ndquadrant.com
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In response to Re: PG 12 draft release notes  (Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>)
Responses Re: PG 12 draft release notes  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
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On 5/22/19 4:26 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:19:53AM +0900, Ian Barwick wrote:
>> the last two items are performance improvements not related to authentication;
>> presumably the VACUUM item would be better off in the "Utility Commands"
>> section and the TRUNCATE item in "General Performance"?
> 
> I agree with removing them from authentication, but these are not
> performance-related items.  Instead I think that "Utility commands" is
> a place where they can live better.
> 
> I am wondering if we should insist on the DOS attacks on a server, as
> non-authorized users are basically able to block any tables, and
> authorization is only a part of it, one of the worst parts
> actually...  Anyway, I think that "This prevents unauthorized locking
> delays." does not provide enough details.  What about reusing the
> first paragraph of the commits?  Here is an idea:
> "A caller of TRUNCATE/VACUUM/ANALYZE could previously queue for an
> access exclusive lock on a relation it may not have permission to
> truncate/vacuum/analyze, potentially interfering with users authorized
> to work on it.  This could prevent users from accessing some relations
> they have access to, in some cases preventing authentication if a
> critical catalog relation was blocked."

Ah, if that's the intent behind/use for those changes (I haven't looked at them
in any detail, was just scanning the release notes) then it certainly needs some
explanation along those lines.


Regards

Ian Barwick


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