Re: eliminate xl_heap_visible to reduce WAL (and eventually set VM on-access) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

> On Dec 23, 2025, at 01:57, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 2:20 AM Chao Li <li.evan.chao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A few more comments on v29:
>
> Thanks for the continued review! I've attached v30.
>
>> 1 - 0002 - Looks like since 0002, visibilitymap_set()’s return value is no longer used, so do we need to update the
functionand change return type to void? I remember in some patches, to address Coverity alerts, people had to do
“(void)function_with_a_return_value()”. 
>
> I was torn about whether or not to change the return value. Coverity
> doesn't always warn about unused return values. Usually it warns if it
> perceives the return value as needed for error checking or if it
> thinks not using the return value is incorrect. It may still warn in
> this case, but it's not obvious to me which way it would go.
>
> I have changed the function signature as you suggested in v30.
>
> My hesitation is that visibilitymap_set() is in a header file and
> could be used by extensions/forks, etc. Adding more information by
> changing a return value from void to non-void doesn't have any
> negative effect on those potential callers. But taking away a return
> value is more likely to affect them in a potentially negative way.
>
> However, I'm significantly changing the signature in this release, so
> everybody that used it will have to change their code completely
> anyway. Also, I just added a return value for visibilitymap_set() in
> the previous release (18). Historically, it returned void. So, I've
> gone with your suggestion.

From a previous patch, I learned from Peter Eisentraut that “We don't care about ABI changes in major releases.”, see:

https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/70913dbd-dadf-4560-9f81-c0df72bf6578%40eisentraut.org

>> -        * HEAP_PAGE_PRUNE_FREEZE indicates that we will also freeze tuples, and
>> -        * will return 'all_visible', 'all_frozen' flags to the caller.
>> +        * HEAP_PAGE_PRUNE_FREEZE indicates that we will also freeze tuples
>>
>> Nit: a tailing dot is needed in the end of the comment line.
>
> I've changed it. One interesting thing is that our "policy" for
> periods in comments is that we don't put periods at the end of
> one-line comments and we do put them at the end of mult-line comment
> sentences. This is a one-line comment inside a comment block, so I
> wasn't sure what to do. If you noticed it, and it bothered you, it's
> easy enough to change, though.

If this is a one-line comment, I would have not been caring about the tailing period.

The problem is this is a paragraph of a block comment, and the above and below paragraphs all have tailing periods. So,
forconsistency, I raised the comment. 
```
      * HEAP_PAGE_PRUNE_MARK_UNUSED_NOW indicates that dead items can be set
      * LP_UNUSED during pruning.   <=== Has a tailing period
      *
-     * HEAP_PAGE_PRUNE_FREEZE indicates that we will also freeze tuples, and
-     * will return 'all_visible', 'all_frozen' flags to the caller.
+     * HEAP_PAGE_PRUNE_FREEZE indicates that we will also freeze tuples <=== Not a tailing period
      *
      * HEAP_PAGE_PRUNE_UPDATE_VM indicates that we will set the page's status
      * in the VM.                                 <=== Has a tailing period
```

>
>> 9 - 0006
>>
>> @@ -3537,6 +3537,7 @@ heap_page_would_be_all_visible(Relation rel, Buffer buf,
>>        {
>>                ItemId          itemid;
>>                HeapTupleData tuple;
>> +               TransactionId dead_after = InvalidTransactionId;
>> ```
>>
>> This initialization seems to not needed, as HeapTupleSatisfiesVacuumHorizon() will always set a value to it.
>
> I think this is a comment for a later patch in the set (you originally
> said it was from 0006), but I've changed dead_after to not be
> initialized like this.

My bad. This comment was actually for 0009. In v31, I see you have removed the initialization to dead_after.

Best regards,
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Chao Li (Evan)
HighGo Software Co., Ltd.
https://www.highgo.com/