Re: [HACKERS] postgres 9.6.2 update breakage - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Peter Eisentraut
Subject Re: [HACKERS] postgres 9.6.2 update breakage
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Msg-id 7686e85b-7cdb-abde-e61e-fe7890836cbc@2ndquadrant.com
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In response to Re: [HACKERS] postgres 9.6.2 update breakage  (Roel Janssen <roel@gnu.org>)
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On 5/15/17 02:48, Roel Janssen wrote:
> Ah yes, I see the point.  The problem here is that when new features are
> added to PostgreSQL, and you rely upon them in your database schemas,
> downgrading will most likely cause loss of information.
> 
> Maybe we need a wrapper script that also makes a dump of all of the
> data?  Now that could become a security hole.
> 
> Or the wrapper script warns about this situation, and recommends making
> a (extra) back-up of the database before upgrading.
> 
> Or.. the upgrade is something a user should do explicitly, basically
> giving up on the "just works" concept.  Guix already provides a nice way
> to get the previous version of the exact binaries used before the
> upgrade.

The best way to manage this with PostgreSQL is to make separate packages
for each PostgreSQL major version.  I see for example that you have
packages gcc-4.9, gcc-5, gcc-6, etc.  You should do the same with
PostgreSQL, e.g., postgresql-9.5, postgresql-9.6, postgresql-10.  Then
you don't have to concern yourselves with how "upgrades" and
"downgrades" should look for the users of your packaging system.  Minor
version upgrades are just installing the new package and restarting.
Major version upgrades are figured out by the user.

Downgrades between minor versions of the same major versions should
mostly work.  They are not well tested, if at all, but I don't think
that's all that different from downgrading any other package.

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Peter Eisentraut              http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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