Re: pgFoundry Download URLs - Mailing list pgsql-www

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>> There's also a 2nd advantage to having the PG accessory project mostly
>> hosted elsewhere: it makes us more visible to outside communities.    
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> and makes it harder to aggregate them back into a canonical            
> search/aggregator which is what some people want...                    

We're never going to have that. See below.

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> so what place would you redirect people too if they ask for a listing of 
> stuff related to postgresql? and no I don't think a manually maintained  
> "software catalogue" like we have on the website is any/much better.     

There is no single *place* we can redirect people to, nor will there ever 
be moving forward. It's way too late for that. Look at the number of      
Postgres related projects that are *not* on pgf, and ask yourself if      
they will ever migrate back to pgf or its successor (hint: no).           

> What we need is aggregation of information and it is kind of hard to see 
> how we would get that out of any of the existing collab sites (except    
> maybe freshmeat but even that would not work too well). For stuff on pgf
> we essentially get most of the important information for "free" as part
> of people running their projects. Just because we failed to utilize that
> information so far does not mean that the whole concept is flawed.

I think it does indicate just that. How many years has gborg and now
pgfoundry limped along? I agree that we can do better with a central
listing. Rather than the hard to navigate and hard to find software
catalogoue (or however Dave spells it :), let's create a page on the
wiki that lists all interesting and active Postgres related projects.
Not a category, not a set of pages, a single page. There are probably
at most 50 such projects. The inclusion rule would be simple: someone
who cares enough about a particular project can get a wiki account
and add it in themselves. Name, link, short description, done.

In case I'm not clear, I'm also +1 for shutting down pgf at some point.
It's a big jumbled mess of unloved and unfinished projects right now,
with a tiny handful of truly active and useful projects. Cut them all
free, and the survivors will find other homes (e.g. github). I know that's
harsh, but it's 2010 and pgf is still embarassingly bad after all these
years.


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