Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add pg_audit, an auditing extension - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Joshua D. Drake
Subject Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add pg_audit, an auditing extension
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Msg-id 556673E1.8090109@commandprompt.com
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In response to Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add pg_audit, an auditing extension  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
Responses Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add pg_audit, an auditing extension
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On 05/27/2015 06:38 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:

> While I certainly appreciate the support, I don't believe auditing will
> be able to work as an extension over the long term and if the community
> is unwilling or unable to accept steps in that direction through contrib
> modules or even changes to core to improve what we are able to provide
> in this area,

It seems to me that perhaps the solution is then to pull pg_audit into 
user space and instead work on a general solution (an API? custom 
backend?) that provides what is needed.


> I have very serious doubts about the willingness of
> organizations (particularly those in the financial and government space)
> to continue to seek out and support PostgreSQL as a viable open source
> alternative to the commerical RDBMS's which have had these capabilities
> for years.

This may or may not be true considering and I am not sure it really 
matters in the context of this argument.

>
> I'm, again, not suggesting that a contrib module is going to be a
> workable long-term solution for all use-cases, but it would solve quite
> a few and would be known to be supported, and to have the support of the
> community, if released as part of PostgreSQL.

If the demand for this module is there, it will receive the support it 
needs regardless if it is in core.

> These are extremely
> serious organizations who care about the reputation of PostgreSQL and
> the community for delivering quality software.  I certainly have no
> intention to tarnish that in any way as it would be quite detrimental to
> myself and the community.  If that means reverting a patch of my own, or
> one which I have supported, so be it.

I can not speak to the quality of the patch. I can speak to what others, 
people of repute in this community speak of this patch. The leaning 
tower seems as if it is clearly in the, "we might want to think about 
reverting this".

As it is currently an extension, it does not need to be in core. If this 
extension reaches a point where it needs to be in core to achieve some 
level of integration not currently provided then we can evaluate that 
problem. Currently, that is not the case.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


>
>     Thanks!
>
>         Stephen
>


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