Re: Only first XLogRecData is visible to rm_desc with WAL_DEBUG - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: Only first XLogRecData is visible to rm_desc with WAL_DEBUG
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Msg-id 5331308E.4000607@vmware.com
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In response to Re: Only first XLogRecData is visible to rm_desc with WAL_DEBUG  (Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>)
Responses Re: Only first XLogRecData is visible to rm_desc with WAL_DEBUG  (Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>)
Re: Only first XLogRecData is visible to rm_desc with WAL_DEBUG  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On 03/25/2014 02:13 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>
>>>> 3. Remove the feature altogether, so that enabling wal_debug doesn't
>>>> cause all insertions to be logged anymore (no changes to the logging
>>>> during replay). It's a lot less interesting now that we have pg_xlogdump.
>>>
>>> I think the main use-case for rm_desc anymore is making CONTEXT lines
>>> for errors reported during WAL replay.  I guess that situation does not
>>> have the same problem, since we've already loaded the complete WAL record.
>>>
>>> However, I'm not sure how easy it's going to be for WAL_DEBUG to make the
>>> data look the same as the replay case: in particular, substitution of
>>> full-page-images for data would be tough to predict in advance (and moving
>>> the printout into the critical section seems like a bad answer).
>>>
>>> I'd be okay with removing WAL_DEBUG, I think, particularly in view of the
>>> fact that there have been no requests to make it a compiled-by-default
>>> feature.
>>
>> I've found WAL_DEBUG quite useful in the past, when working on
>> scalability, and have indeed wished for it to be
>> compiled-in-by-default.
>>
>> I don't know whether I'm the only one, though.
>
> You are not.  I would rather have it fixed than removed, if possible.  I
> don't really care too much about getting a performance hit to palloc the
> records, really; being able to actually read what's happening is much
> more useful.

I find it useful too, but I think pg_xlogdump can serve the same purpose.

One thing missing from pg_xlogdump is the capability to keep tracking 
the inserted WAL, instead of dumping to the end of WAL and stopping 
there. If we add an option to pg_xlogdump to poll the WAL instead of 
bailing out at an error, I think it's a good replacement.

- Heikki



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