Re: SSL: better default ciphersuite - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Adrian Klaver
Subject Re: SSL: better default ciphersuite
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Msg-id 52B09F82.2070003@gmail.com
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In response to Re: SSL: better default ciphersuite  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
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On 12/17/2013 08:26 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 09:51:30AM -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
>>> For reference, see:
>>>
>>>    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS
>>>
>>> for the currently suggested suite for TLS servers.
>> ...
>>> But for pgsql, I'd leave off the !PSK; pre-shared keys may prove useful
>>> for some.  And RC4, perhaps, also should be !ed.
>>>
>>> And if anyone wants Kerberos tls-authentication, one could add
>>> KRB5-DES-CBC3-SHA, but that is ssl3-only.
>>>
>>> Once salsa20-poly1305 lands in openssl, that should be added to the
>>> start of the list.
>>
>> I'm starting to think we should just leave this well enough alone.  We
>> can't seem to find two people with the same idea of what would be
>> better than what we have now.  And of course the point of making it a
>> setting in the first place is that each person can set it to whatever
>> they deem best.
>
> Yes, I am seeing that too.  Can we agree on one that is _better_ than
> what we have now, even if we can't agree on a _best_ one?
>

Agreed. I would note that what is being proposed is a default that helps 
those of us (myself included) that do not know ciphers in and out, start 
with reasonable expectation of protection. This is a GUC so it can be 
modified to suite personal taste.

-- 
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@gmail.com



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