Re: Commitfest II CLosed - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: Commitfest II CLosed
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Msg-id 52653289.2030207@vmware.com
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In response to Re: Commitfest II CLosed  (Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>)
Responses Re: Commitfest II CLosed  (Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>)
Re: Commitfest II CLosed  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Re: Commitfest II CLosed  (Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>)
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On 21.10.2013 16:15, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 10/21/13 1:31 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
>> The point of the CF is exactly that all
>> patches get at least one good round of review. Moving unreviewed patches
>> to the next CF will let them just suffer the same fate there.

Agreed. People have different views on what the purpose of a commitfest 
is, but IMO the point is to make sure that every patch submitted gets at 
least a cursory review in a timely fashion. Pushing patches to the next 
one because no-one has gotten around to review them is a failure.

> What is the alternative?

If no-one really cares enough about a patch to review it, mark it as 
"rejected, because no-one but the patch author cares". Harsh, but that's 
effectively what pushing to the next commitfest means anyway. Better to 
be honest about it. At least that way the author can promote the patch's 
virtues more on the mailing list, or personally contact someone who 
might be interested, to get some attention, and resubmit if he thinks 
that it might have a chance on the next commitfest.

Another alternative is to push harder to make sure that every patch gets 
some review. I don't know how to accomplish that. Robert Haas did a 
great job at that in the first few commitfests (IIRC), but only because 
he personally spent a lot of time not only managing the commitfest but 
actually reviewing the patches that no-one else bothered with. That's a 
great way to make sure that every patch gets some attention, but I don't 
think we have any takers for that role.

I feel guilty to complain, while not actually volunteering to be a 
commitfest manager myself, but I wish the commitfest manager would be 
more aggressive in nagging, pinging and threatening people to review 
stuff. If nothing else, always feel free to nag me :-). Josh tried that 
with the infamous Slacker List, but that backfired. Rather than posting 
a public list of shame, I think it would work better to send short 
off-list nag emails, or chat via IM. Something like "Hey, you've signed 
up to review this. Any progress?". Or "Hey, could you take a look at X 
please? No-one else seems to care about it."

- Heikki



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