Re: Default to TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andrew Dunstan
Subject Re: Default to TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE?
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Msg-id 4cde3a46-ab29-c922-fdfa-5a242079c676@dunslane.net
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In response to Re: Default to TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE?  (Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: Default to TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE?
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On 8/12/21 7:25 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
> I thought we found that changing behavior via GUC usually ends badly.
>> Yeah.  Changing from SQL-spec to not-SQL-spec behavior is going to be
>> one tough sell to begin with, even without the point that that's been
>> our behavior for over two decades.  But proposing to do it via a GUC
>> is just not-even-worth-discussing territory.  That would force every
>> wannabe-portable program to cope with both behaviors; which would
>> end up meaning that not only do you still have to take care to write
>> WITH TIME ZONE when you want that, but *also* you'd have to be sure
>> to write WITHOUT TIME ZONE when you want that.  In short, the worst
>> of both worlds.
> All of which I agree with, but this wasn't a cute idea of mine, this
> was what our users have requested because of the extreme annoyance
> caused by the current behavior.
>

What do other DBMSs do? This strikes me as primarily an education issue
(I did a webinar on it not that long ago)


If you want to protect against people using tz-less timestamp, maybe an
event trigger would be a solution, although maybe that's using a
sledgehammer to crack a nut.


cheers


andrew


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Andrew Dunstan
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