Checkpoint sync pause - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Greg Smith
Subject Checkpoint sync pause
Date
Msg-id 4F13D856.60704@2ndQuadrant.com
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Responses Re: Checkpoint sync pause  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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Last year at this point, I submitted an increasingly complicated
checkpoint sync spreading feature.  I wasn't able to prove any
repeatable drop in sync time latency from those patches.  While that was
going on, and continuing into recently, the production server that
started all this with its sync time latency issues didn't stop having
that problem.  Data collection continued, new patches were tried.

There was a really simple triage step Simon and I made before getting
into the complicated ones:  just delay for a few seconds between every
single sync call made during a checkpoint.  That approach is still
hanging around that server's patched PostgreSQL package set, and it
still works better than anything more complicated we've tried so far.
The recent split of background writer and checkpointer makes that whole
thing even easier to do without rippling out to have unexpected
consequences.

In order to be able to tune this usefully, you need to know information
about how many files a typical checkpoint syncs.  That could be
available without needing log scraping using the "Publish checkpoint
timing and sync files summary data to pg_stat_bgwriter" addition I just
submitted.  People who set this new checkpoint_sync_pause value too high
can face checkpoints running over schedule, but you can measure how bad
your exposure is with the new view information.

I owe the community a lot of data to prove this is useful before I'd
expect it to be taken seriously.  I was planning to leave this whole
area alone until 9.3.  But since recent submissions may pull me back
into trying various ways of rearranging the write path for 9.2, I wanted
to have my own miniature horse in that race.  It works simply:

...
2012-01-16 02:39:01.184 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync: number=34
file=base/16385/11766 time=0.006 msec
2012-01-16 02:39:01.184 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync delay:
seconds left=3
2012-01-16 02:39:01.284 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync delay:
seconds left=2
2012-01-16 02:39:01.385 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync delay:
seconds left=1
2012-01-16 02:39:01.860 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync: number=35
file=global/12007 time=375.710 msec
2012-01-16 02:39:01.860 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync delay:
seconds left=3
2012-01-16 02:39:01.961 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync delay:
seconds left=2
2012-01-16 02:39:02.061 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync delay:
seconds left=1
2012-01-16 02:39:02.161 EST [25052]: DEBUG:  checkpoint sync: number=36
file=base/16385/11754 time=0.008 msec
2012-01-16 02:39:02.555 EST [25052]: LOG:  checkpoint complete: wrote
2586 buffers (63.1%); 1 transaction log file(s) added, 0 removed, 0
recycled; write=2.422 s, sync=13.282 s, total=16.123 s; sync files=36,
longest=1.085 s, average=0.040 s

No docs yet, really need a better guide to tuning checkpoints as they
exist now before there's a place to attach a discussion of this to.

--
Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg@2ndQuadrant.com   Baltimore, MD
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