Re: half OOT, plv8js group created ^^ - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andrew Dunstan
Subject Re: half OOT, plv8js group created ^^
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In response to Re: half OOT, plv8js group created ^^  (Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>)
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Re: half OOT, plv8js group created ^^
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Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
>   
>> Kiswono Prayogo wrote:
>>     
>>> plv8js is a procedural language add-on for PostgreSQL, which means you
>>> can define Javascript functions that run inside a PostgreSQL server
>>> using google V8 Engine.
>>>
>>> anyone who want to contribute in plv8js please visit this group ^^
>>> http://code.google.com/p/plv8js/
>>> i'm still new in postgresql and v8, need MASSIVELY LOT of study and
>>> help ^^, thank you..
>>>       
>> Well, I see you are apparently ignoring the advice we already gave you that
>> V8 is not likely to be the best fit for a PostgreSQL JS procedural language,
>> so that's not a good start.
>>     
>
> that's a little harsh...he was mostly given some vague advice
> ("spidermonkey might be better...").  Maybe it isn't the best, but
> that doesn't mean it's not worth trying!
>
>
>   


Very well, if I was harsh I apologise, but maybe you should look at the 
embedding guide here <http://code.google.com/apis/v8/embed.html> and 
decide how well it is likely to work for PostgreSQL in pure C. The 
advice was not just "spidermonkey might be better". It was that a C++ 
oriented API like this (throwing exceptions among other things) was not 
likely to work, or at least to work as well as a pure C API.

And, frankly, pure PL speed in a language like JS, that is likely to be 
used mainly as glue, is not likely to be a concern for most uses.

If someone is going to work on a JS engine for PostgreSQL (which I think 
is a good idea, actually) I want them to work on one that is likely to 
succeed.

cheers

andrew


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