Re: Request for assistance/advice: TikiWiki CMS/Groupware will have to drop PostgreSQL support soon unless a maintainer steps up

From: Santiago Zarate
Subject: Re: Request for assistance/advice: TikiWiki CMS/Groupware will have to drop PostgreSQL support soon unless a maintainer steps up
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Msg-id: 4A2C97D4.4000709@zarate.net.ve
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In response to: Request for assistance/advice: TikiWiki CMS/Groupware will have to drop PostgreSQL support soon unless a maintainer steps up  (Marc Laporte)
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Forwarded the message to a Venezuelan mailing list, hope it will get
spread soon...

Marc Laporte escribió:
> Hello to the PostgreSQL community!
>
> I asked someone in the PostgreSQL community and he wrote: "There have
> been past conversations on the advocacy's mailing list discussing the
> lack of implementation of web based front-ends using PostgreSQL. You
> could post a request for help on the advocacy mail list."
>
> This is a request for assistance/advice. Please point me to the right
> people/place if this is the wrong place.
>
>
> I am a project admin for TikiWiki CMS/Groupware.
>
> "TikiWiki CMS/Groupware is a full-featured, web-based, multilingual,
> tightly integrated, all-in-one Wiki+CMS+Groupware, Free Source
> Software (GNU/LGPL), using PHP, ADOdb, Zend Framework, jQuery and
> Smarty. It is actively developed by a very large international
> community and is translated in over 35 languages. TikiWiki can be used
> to create all sorts of Web applications, sites, portals, knowledge
> base, intranets, and extranets."
>
> A few stats to give an idea of the scope of the project
> * Over 1 million lines of code.
> * 220+ developers directly committing to the core, with countless
> other people helping with support, documentation, testing, etc.
> * 1000+ pages of documentation.
> * A new code commit every 2 hours (average of last 5 years)
> * 16 000+ registered users on tikiwiki.org
> * 700 000+ downloads
>
> Also:
> http://info.tikiwiki.org/Fact+Sheet
> http://support.mozilla.com/ (10 million page views per week) and
> wiki.kde.org are powered by Tiki
>
> Tiki uses a database abstraction layer so it can be used with many
> databases (PostgreSQL, Oracle, Sybase, SQLite) in addition to MYSQL.
> However, support for anything but MySQL has become more & more
> problematic. It's not strictly a chicken & egg problem because Tiki
> once worked with non-MYSQL. However, without maintainers, it was lost
> over time.
>
> So we have come to a difficult decision. In about 50 days, database
> independence will be dropped in Tiki unless a maintainer steps up. So
> Tiki will become officially MySQL-only.
>
> Why?
> --------
> We would love to support many databases, especially PostgreSQL because
> it's an open source & community-managed project like Tiki. There are
> many reasons why we would want database independence and it's no use
> listing them here because it's not that we don't want. It's that we
> don't have the resources to do so. Tiki is a huge application and we
> would need active devs that use/maintain Tikis on other databases.
>
> However, since we have no maintainer, we have been for a long time now
> in a "Worst of both worlds" situation.
> *Extra code to maintain
> *Bugs that never get fixed
> *People that are disappointed (feeling it's "false-advertising")
> *Not taking full advantage of MySQL advanced features
>
> More information here:
> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Database+independence
>
> This is very disappointing to me because I have always wanted Tiki to
> be as universal as possible. So I don't want to give up on this goal
> without a fight. Which is why I am writing to you today.
>
> I look forward to any advice or help you may provide.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>


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