Re: Visibility Groups - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Richard Huxton
Subject Re: Visibility Groups
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Msg-id 489AF611.7040701@archonet.com
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In response to Re: Visibility Groups  (Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>)
Responses Re: Visibility Groups  (Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>)
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:55 +0200, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
>>> I propose creating "Visibility Groups" that *explicitly* limit the
>>> ability of a transaction to access data outside its visibility group(s).
>> Doesn't every transaction need to access data from the catalogs?
>> Wouldn't the inclusion of a catalogs visibility group in every
>> transaction negate any potential benefits?
> 
> True, but I don't see the catalogs as frequently updated data. The
> objective is to isolate frequently updated tables from long running
> statements that don't need to access them.
> 
> Tables can be in multiple visibility groups, perhaps that wasn't clear.
> When we seek to vacuum a table, we take the lowest xmin of any group it
> was in when we took snapshot. 

I'm not sure if "visibility group" is the best name for this - I had to 
go away and think through what you meant about that last bit. Have I got 
this right?

So - a "visibility group" is attached to a transaction.

My long-running transaction T0 can restrict itself to <catalogues> and 
table "event_log".

Various other transactions T1..Tn make no promises about what they are 
going to access. They all share the "null visibility group".

A table "user_emails" is in the "null visibility group" and can be 
vacuumed based on whatever the lowest xid of T1..Tn is.

Table "event_log" is in both groups and can only be vacuumed based on 
T0..Tn (presumably T0 is the oldest, since that's the point of the 
exercise).

An attempt to write to user_emails by T0 will fail with an error.

An attempt to read from user_emails by T0 will be allowed?

What happens if I'm in ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE? Presumably the read  is disallowed then too?

--   Richard Huxton  Archonet Ltd


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