Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?

From: Magnus Hagander
Subject: Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?
Date: ,
Msg-id: 474F4001.1010507@hagander.net
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In response to: Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan)
Responses: Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier")
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Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
 Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
  Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
   Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Tom Lane, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Josh Berkus, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Dave Page, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Devrim GÜNDÜZ, )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Josh Berkus, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
          Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alexey Klyukin, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
          Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
           Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
            Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
             Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
              Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
               Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
                Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
           Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
           Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
            Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
             Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
              Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Dave Page, )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
          Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
  Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
  Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )

Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> It appears that I caused a ruckus with my suggestion.  It hasn't helped that
> I have, I think, encouraged a rather different discussion.  This message is
> intended to disambiguate the various threads of this discussion, lay to rest
> at least one, and to make a promise about others.
> 
> A.  What I asked for
> 
> What I actually asked for was that we reject mail From:
> <> destined for <>.  I
> suggested this, because the spammers have obviously figured out that they
> can send mail with the From: and To: headers the same, and evade many spam
> traps.  Since lists should _never_ send mail to themselves (it'd be a loop),
> this is an obvious optimisation.  Marc says he can do this; I dunno whether
> it's been done, but I think his suggestion should be implemented. 

Yes, please do if not done already!


> B.  What else came out
> 
> As it turns out, this discussion raised several other issues.  I think they
> are the following:
> 
> 1.    SMTP Auth
> 
> Everyone agrees this should be and is happening, so we don't need to discuss
> it more.

Eh. I think we agree that it should be, but it certainly isn't. But I
agree with the not need to discuss anymore.


<snip>

> Every one of the above may be answered in different ways, and the union of
> them entails various listmail policies that we may or may not like.  Since
> the possible set of policies is so large, I offer to put together a proposed
> set of policies, with justifications, some time in January (after the
> release is behind us); that ought to eliminate the number of options that
> need to be included (I think some of the above questions have obvious
> answers).
> 
> Is this ok with others?

+1

//Magnus



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