Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?

From: Magnus Hagander
Subject: Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?
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In response to: Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier")
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Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
 Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
  Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
   Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Tom Lane, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Josh Berkus, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Dave Page, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Devrim GÜNDÜZ, )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Josh Berkus, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
          Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
    Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alexey Klyukin, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
          Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
           Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
            Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
             Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
              Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
               Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
                Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
           Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
           Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
            Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
             Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
              Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Dave Page, )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
     Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
       Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
         Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Magnus Hagander, )
          Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
        Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  (Andrew Sullivan, )
  Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
  Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?  ("Marc G. Fournier", )

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> 
> --On Thursday, November 29, 2007 13:39:09 -0500 Andrew Sullivan 
> <> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 01:00:07PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>> And is there a reason to assume spammers are that stupid as to not switch to
>>> using 587 if that does become some sort of standard?
>> Um, that you can't?  One of the points of the new port was that it _only_
>> allowed authenticated submission.
> 
> 'k, sorry, you did say that in your last to me ... but, wouldn't *that* imply 
> that it is suddenly now okay to open up port 25?  What I think is losing me 
> here is why add a new port, when port 25 itself *should* already be 'only 
> allowed authenticated'?  Or, when you say "Only", do you mean even from the 
> local network, no exceptions?

587 is access from anywhere, *always* authenticated, and can relay.
25 is for local delivery only, can *never* relay, but does not need auth.

At least that's how I understand it - I may have missed some details :-)

//Magnus



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