Re: Code of Conduct - Mailing list pgsql-general

On 18/09/18 20:27, Dave Page wrote:
> The PostgreSQL Core team are pleased to announce that following a long 
> consultation process, the project’s Code of Conduct (CoC) has now been 
> finalised and published at https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/coc/.
> 
> Please take time to read and understand theCoC, which is intended to 
> ensure that PostgreSQL remains an open and enjoyable project for anyone 
> to join and participate in.
> 
> A Code of Conduct Committee has been formed to handle any complaints. 
> This consists of the following volunteers:
> 
> - Stacey Haysler (Chair)
> -LætitiaAvrot
> - Vik Fearing
> - Jonathan Katz
> - Ilya Kosmodemiansky
> 
> We would like to extend our thanks and gratitude to Stacey Haysler for 
> her patience and expertise in helping develop the Code of Conduct, 
> forming the committee and guiding the work to completion.
> 
> --
> Dave Page
> PostgreSQL Core Team
> http://www.postgresql.org/
> <http://www.postgresql.org/>

It's overly long and convoluted.

"inclusivity" Is a ideologue buzzword of particular individuals that 
offer very little value apart from excessive policing of speech and 
behaviour assumed to be a problem where none exist.

"Personal attacks and negative comments on personal characteristics are 
unacceptable, and will not be permitted. Examples of personal 
characteristics include, but are not limited to age, race, national 
origin or ancestry, religion, gender, or sexual orientation."

So just leaving it at "Personal attacks" and ending it there won't do 
obviously. I'm a big advocate of people sorting out there own personal 
disputes in private but...

"further personal attacks (public or *private*);"

...lets assume people don't have the maturity for that and make it all 
public.

"may be considered offensive by fellow members" - Purely subjective and 
irrelevant to a piece of community software.

There is much more in this CoC that is concerning and appears to follow 
the same methodology to be nothing more than a green light to those who 
have made their way within the inner hierarchy to run it like a overly 
politicized dictatorship.

I'm not sure if there is likely to be a large concerning number of 
people that are likely to violate this CoC. However, it is written in a 
such a way that will open it up to heavy handed abuse.

The fact that this CoC made it this far to be actually published is 
concerning and IMO alludes to requests for feedback to not be taken 
seriously. In fact I'm somewhat certain of this.

I assumed this was a open community with a large number of voluntary 
members. Remember this is a piece of software most end users don't know 
or even should care about.

K.I.S.S. That's my feedback.

Regards, Julian.