Re: Defining performance. - Mailing list pgsql-performance

Paul Lathrop wrote:
> We run 4 ~25-30Gb databases which cache information from eBay. These
> databases have had performance issues since before I joined the company.
> The databases have gone through a number of iterations. Initially, they
> were deployed as one huge database - performance was apparently
> unacceptable. They were split, and tried on a variety of hardware
> platforms. When I joined the company last year, the databases were
> deployed on 12-disk RAID5 arrays on dual-proc AMD machines with 4Gb of
> RAM, running Debian Woody and Postgres 7.2.

Well, first of all you need to upgrade. 7.2 is old and not supported
anymore.

> These systems seemed to
> suffer a gradually decreasing performance accompanied by a gradually
> growing disk space usage. The DBA had come to the conclusion that the
> VACUUM command did/does not work on these systems, because even after a
> VACUUM FULL, the size of the database was continually increasing. So, as
> things stand with the PG7.2 machines, vacuuming is run nightly, and
> whenever the database size reaches 40Gb on disk (the point at which
> performance has degraded below tolerance), the DBA exports the data,
> deletes the database, and then imports the data, shrinking it to the
> actual size of the dataset.

Vacuum didn't reclaim empty index pages until 7.4, so you might be
suffering from index bloat. A nightly reindex would help with that.

> This process is time-consuming, costly, and the servers that we are
> deployed on do not meet our stability requirements. So, after much
> pushing, I was able to deploy a 12-disk RAID5 dual-proc AMD64 machine
> with 16Gb of RAM running FreeBSD and Postgres 8.1.

You should give 8.2 (now in beta stage) a try as well. There's some
significant performance enhancements, for example vacuums should run faster.

> 1) How does one define 'performance' anyway? Is it average time to
> complete a query? If so, what kind of query? Is it some other metric?

Performance is really an umbrella term that can mean a lot of things.
You'll have to come up with a metric that's most meaningful to you and
that you can easily measure. Some typical metrics are:

* Average response time to a query/queries
* Max or 90% percentile response time to a query
* throughput, transactions per second

You'll have to start measuring performance somehow. You might find out
that actually your performance is bad only during some hour of day for
example. Take a look at the log_min_duration_statement parameter in more
recent versions for starter.

> 2) I've combed the archives and seen evidence that people out there are
> running much much larger databases on comparable hardware with decent
> performance. Is this true, or is my dataset at about the limit of my
> hardware?

It depends on your load, really. A dataset of ~ 40 GB is certainly not
that big compared to what some people have.

> 3) Though this may seem irrelevant, since we are moving away from the
> platform, it would still be good to know - was VACUUM actually
> completely useless on PG7.2 or is there some other culprit on these
> legacy machines?

It's certainly better nowadays..

> 4) Much of my reading of the PG docs and list archives seems to suggest
> that much of performance tuning is done at the query level - you have to
> know how to ask for information in an efficient way. To that end, I took
> a look at some of the queries we get on a typical day. On average, 24
> times per minute, our application causes a unique key violation. This
> struck me as strange, but the VP of Engineering says this is a
> performance ENHANCEMENT - the code doesn't bother checking for the
> unique key because it depends on the database to enforce that. My
> interpretation of reading the archives & docs seems to indicate that
> this could be causing the constantly increasing database size... so now
> that I've rambled about it, does an INSERT transaction that is rolled
> back due to a unique key violation leave dead rows in the table? If so, why?

The way unique checking works in PostgreSQL is:

1. The row is inserted into heap.
2. The corresponding index tuple is inserted to index. While doing that,
  we check that there's no duplicate key there already.

So yes, a unique key violation will leave the dead tuple in the heap,
and it will be removed by vacuum later on.

I think it's a valid and sane approach to leave the uniqueness check to
the database. Unless a very large proportion of your transactions abort
due to unique key violations, the dead rows won't be a problem. The
space will be reclaimed by vacuum.

In general, it's normal that there's some dead rows in the database. As
long as you vacuum regularly, the database size should eventually reach
a steady-state where it doesn't grow anymore, unless the real live
dataset size increases.

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