Re: [GENERAL] tuple data size and compression - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Adrian Klaver
Subject Re: [GENERAL] tuple data size and compression
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Msg-id 44c0dbc0-3afe-8219-db9c-ab7a1035365b@aklaver.com
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In response to Re: [GENERAL] tuple data size and compression  (Tom DalPozzo <t.dalpozzo@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: [GENERAL] tuple data size and compression
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On 12/15/2016 08:26 AM, Tom DalPozzo wrote:
>         https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/storage-toast.html
>         <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/storage-toast.html>
>
>
>     "The TOAST management code is triggered only when a row value to be
>     stored in a table is wider than TOAST_TUPLE_THRESHOLD bytes
>     (normally 2 kB). The TOAST code will compress and/or move field
>     values out-of-line until the row value is shorter than
>     TOAST_TUPLE_TARGET bytes (also normally 2 kB) or no more gains can
>     be had. During an UPDATE operation, values of unchanged fields are
>     normally preserved as-is; so an UPDATE of a row with out-of-line
>     values incurs no TOAST costs if none of the out-of-line values change."
>
>         Pupillo
>
>         --
>
>     Adrian Klaver
>     adrian.klaver@aklaver.com <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
>
>
> I see. But in my case rows don't reach that thresold (I didn't check if
> 2K but I didn't change anything). So I'm wondering if there is any other
> chance except the TOAST to get the rows compressed or not.

Are you really sure you want that? For small files the overhead of
compression tends to out weigh the benefits. A contrived example biased
to making my point:

aklaver@killi:~> dd if=/dev/urandom of=file.txt bs=10 count=10
10+0 records in
10+0 records out
100 bytes (100 B) copied, 0.253617 s, 0.4 kB/s
aklaver@killi:~> l -h file.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 aklaver users 100 Dec 15 13:07 file.txt
aklaver@killi:~> gzip file.txt
aklaver@killi:~> l -h file.txt.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 aklaver users 132 Dec 15 13:07 file.txt.gz


> I noticed that, when I use constant data, the total IO writes (by
> iostat) are more or less 1/2 of the the total IO writes when using
> random or other data hard to compress.

Define constant data?

I thought the data you are inputting is below the compression threshold?

Is I/O causing a problem or to put it another way, what is the problem
you are trying to solve?


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Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com


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