Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1

From: Andreas Pflug
Subject: Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1
Date: ,
Msg-id: 427110F3.8010500@pse-consulting.de
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In response to: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruce Momjian)
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Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruce Momjian, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruno Wolff III, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Rob Butler, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Andreas Pflug, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Christopher Browne, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruce Momjian, )
    Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruno Wolff III, )
     Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruno Wolff III, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Matthew T. O'Connor", )
    Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
     Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
      Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Jim C. Nasby", )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Christopher Browne, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Marc G. Fournier", )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Matthew T. O'Connor", )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Sander Steffann", )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Alvaro Herrera, )
    Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Peter Eisentraut, )
     Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
      Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
       Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruno Wolff III, )
        Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
         Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Jaime Casanova, )
          Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
           Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
            Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
           Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
          Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
       Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Neil Conway, )
        Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
         Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Neil Conway, )
          Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
           Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Neil Conway, )
            Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Russell Smith, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
            Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Neil Conway, )
              Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
              Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Dennis Bjorklund, )
              Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Alvar Freude, )
               Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Hannu Krosing, )
              Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
              Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Heikki Linnakangas, )
               Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
               Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Dawid Kuroczko, )
               Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Hannu Krosing, )
                Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
                 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Heikki Linnakangas, )
                  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
            Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Peter Eisentraut, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
              Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
               Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
               Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
             Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
        Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
      Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Hannu Krosing, )
       Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
    Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Dennis Bjorklund, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Dennis Bjorklund, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Christopher Kings-Lynne, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Christopher Browne, )
 Network write errors (was: Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1)  (Andrew - Supernews, )
  Re: Network write errors (was: Re: Feature freeze date for  (Bruce Momjian, )
   Re: Network write errors (was: Re: Feature freeze date for  (Tom Lane, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Christopher Browne, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Christopher Browne, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Andrew - Supernews, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Rob Butler, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruno Wolff III, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Andrew - Supernews, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
    Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Jim C. Nasby", )
     Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Kris Jurka, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Alvar Freude, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Chuck McDevitt", )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Chuck McDevitt", )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Dave Held", )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Dave Held", )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (<>, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
   Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Doug McNaught, )
    Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Simon Riggs, )
     Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Kaare Rasmussen, )
      Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Tom Lane, )
       Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Andrew Dunstan, )
        Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Bruce Momjian, )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Thomas Swan, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Dave Held", )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Dave Held", )
  Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  (Oliver Jowett, )
 Re: Feature freeze date for 8.1  ("Chuck McDevitt", )

Bruce Momjian wrote:
> You might remember that when we released 8.0, the plan was to have a
> 12-month development cycle for 8.1, unless there were Win32 problems
> that required complex fixes, in which case we would have a shorter 8.1
> cycle.
> 
> Well the good news is that there have been almost no Win32 problems, but
> the other good news is that we are getting a lot of powerful features
> for 8.1 already:
> 
>     o two-phase (Heikki Linnakangas, almost done)
>     o multiple out function paramters (Tom, done)
>     o bitmappted indexes (Tom, almost done)
>     o shared row locks (Alvaro, almost done)
>     o integrated auto-vacuum (Bruce)
>     o buffer cache fixes for SMP (Tom, done)
> 
> It is possible all these items will be done by sometime in June.  Now,
> if that happens, do we want to continue with the 12-month plan or
> shorten the 8.1 release cycle, perhaps targeting a release in the
> September/October timeframe?
> 
> The current core proposal is to do feature freeze on July 1, with the
> understanding that we will be done most of the items above by then and
> have the outstanding patches applied.

It seems to be a good idea to take the chance now to make a release. 
Delaying the release would mean preventing the wide usage of features 
although they appear production grade. OTOH, if feature freeze is 
delayed some seemingly essential features for 8.1 which might arise in 
the meantime might delay the release further, or induce late feature 
exclusion when some last minute issues are discovered. Integrated 
autovacuum seems good enough a reason to release early.

Regards,
Andreas




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