Re: Query optimizer 8.0.1 (and 8.0) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Mark Kirkwood
Subject Re: Query optimizer 8.0.1 (and 8.0)
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Msg-id 42081AF1.8030403@coretech.co.nz
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In response to Re: Query optimizer 8.0.1 (and 8.0)  (pgsql@mohawksoft.com)
Responses Re: Query optimizer 8.0.1 (and 8.0)  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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pgsql@mohawksoft.com wrote:
> 
> In this case, the behavior observed could be changed by altering the
> sample size for a table. I submit that an arbitrary fixed sample size is
> not a good base for the analyzer, but that the sample size should be based
> on the size of the table or some calculation of its deviation.
> 
I can see your point, however I wonder if the issue is that the default
stats settings of '10' (3000 rows, 10 histogram buckets) is too low, and
maybe we should consider making a higher value (say '100') the default.

> There is no reason why old stats can't be used to create more accurate
> stats. Using succesive analyze operations, we could create better
> statistics for the planner. We can increase the sample size based on the
> table size. We could, I suppose, also calculate some sort of deviation
> statistic so that "n_distinct" can be calculated better with a smaller
> sample set.

The idea of either automatically increasing sample size for large
tables, or doing a few more samplings with different sizes and examining
the stability of the estimates is rather nice, provided we can keep the
runtime for ANALYZE to reasonable limits, I guess :-)
> 
> The basic problem, though, is that PostgreSQL performed incorrectly on a
> simple query after indexes were created and analyze performed. Yes, it can
> be corrected, that's what led me to my conclusions, but shouldn't we try
> to devise a better system in the future to improve PostgreSQL so it does
> not need this sort of tuning?
> 
Thanks for clarifying.

bets wishes

Mark




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