Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] Sync vs. fsync during checkpoint - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jan Wieck
Subject Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] Sync vs. fsync during checkpoint
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Msg-id 4023ADCE.5000802@Yahoo.com
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In response to Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] Sync vs. fsync during checkpoint  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] Sync vs. fsync during checkpoint  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
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Tom Lane wrote:

> "Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD" <ZeugswetterA@spardat.at> writes:
>> So Imho the target should be to have not much IO open for the checkpoint,
>> so the fsync is fast enough, even if serial.
>
> The best we can do is push out dirty pages with write() via the bgwriter
> and hope that the kernel will see fit to write them before checkpoint
> time arrives.  I am not sure if that hope has basis in fact or if it's
> just wishful thinking.  Most likely, if it does have basis in fact it's
> because there is a standard syncer daemon forcing a sync() every thirty
> seconds.

Looking at the response time charts I did for showing how vacuum delay
is doing, it seems at least on Linux there is hope that that is the
case. Those charts have just a regular 5 minute checkpoint with enough
checkpoint segments for that, and no other sync effort done at all.

The system has a hard time to handle a larger scaled test DB, so it is
definitely well saturated with IO. The charts are here:

     http://developer.postgresql.org/~wieck/vacuum_cost/

>
> That means that instead of an I/O storm every checkpoint interval,
> we get a smaller I/O storm every 30 seconds.  Not sure this is a big
> improvement.  Jan already found out that issuing very frequent sync()s
> isn't a win.

In none of those charts I can see any checkpoint caused IO storm any
more. Charts I'm currently doing for 7.4.1 show extremely clear spikes
at checkpoints. If someone is interested in those as well I will put
them up.


Jan

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