Re: 8.4 release planning (was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Automatic view update rules) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jonah H. Harris
Subject Re: 8.4 release planning (was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Automatic view update rules)
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Msg-id 36e682920901260542s5775eeeel62aa6c4e5b9c6520@mail.gmail.com
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In response to 8.4 release planning (was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Automatic view update rules)  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: 8.4 release planning (was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Automatic view update rules)  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
Re: 8.4 release planning (was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Automatic view update rules)  (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>)
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Particularly with regard to hot standby, which by any sane reading was
not close to being committable on 1 November (a fortiori from the fact
that it's *still* not committable despite large amounts of later work).

While I haven't follwed every detail of this patch set, I'm not quite sure I see that as being very fair to Simon.

Simon has put a lot of time into Hot Standby and has followed the pseudo-defacto community process from design through what he believes to be near-completion; he can't be sure of completion until someone reviews his work.

Honestly, I'm not trying to marginalize your effort reviewing other patches, and I know everyone is busy.  Hell, as much as I'd love to have this feature, I too have been unable to find enough time to review Simon's stuff.  However, over the past few months, I seem to recall seeing Simon submit countless requests for review and regardless of whether it was completely ready to go November 1st or not, at this time I don't think anyone but Simon has a complete view of what his patch(es) even look like.  Yet, albeit with almost no review from the committers, Simon has continually worked through testing, revising his patches, and requesting information and suggestions from the community.

Frankly Tom, I don't know of anyone in the community with as much experience in the recovery code as you and Simon.  So, any of the major edge case problems will probably only be found by you regardless of how many of us review Simon's work.

I do know that this is a feature which a large number of Postgres users really want and were counting on being in 8.4.  Looking forward, if no one wanted to review these patches in November, and seemingly no one wants to review them now, how can we expect this to change for 8.5?  Can anyone point out something Simon did wrong in this process?

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Jonah H. Harris, Senior DBA
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