Re: The contents of the pg_timezone_names view bring some surprises - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Peter J. Holzer
Subject Re: The contents of the pg_timezone_names view bring some surprises
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Msg-id 20210522175515.GA8551@hjp.at
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In response to Re: The contents of the pg_timezone_names view bring some surprises  (Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>)
Responses Re: The contents of the pg_timezone_names view bring some surprises  (Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>)
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On 2021-05-22 08:26:27 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 5/22/21 3:09 AM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > On 2021-05-19 06:57:13 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> > > On 5/18/21 11:31 PM, Bryn Llewellyn wrote:
> > > > This claims (as I read it) that a time zone abbreviation uniquely
> > > > determines an offset from UTC.
> > >
> > > It says no such thing
> >
> > Maybe that's the inherent ambiguity of the English language, but to me
> > "Such a specification defines a particular offset from UTC" does imply a
> > one-to-one mapping from abbreviation to offset.
>
> As your later post points out the reality is a given abbreviation has only
> one offset, but an offset may have many abbreviations.

Which is what Bryn wrote. (But I realize I'm getting into an argument
about what another person meant - again. I should stop that. If Bryn
thinks it is important to be understood he can explain himself.)


> > > and would be lying if it did.
> >
> > As far as pg_timezone_abbrevs is concerned, it is correct. abbrev is
> > unique in that view:
>
> 1) Go to Postgres cluster and in ~/share/timezonesets search in Defaults.txt
> for the word C(c)onflict.
>
> 2)Then go here
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datetime-config-files.html and see
> how the below query could be made to change if someone is not aware of 1).

Actually, no. If you introduce a conflict in a timezoneset file the
database doesn't even start:

2021-05-22 19:47:17 CEST [399103]: [1-1] user=,db=,pid=399103 FATAL:  time zone abbreviation "test" is multiply defined
2021-05-22 19:47:17 CEST [399103]: [2-1] user=,db=,pid=399103 DETAIL:  Entry in time zone file "Default", line 634,
conflictswith entry in file "Default", line 635. 
pg_ctl: could not start server

So abbrev is a unique key on pg_timezone_abbrevs and the documentation
is correct.

        hp

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