Re: Usage of epoch in txid_current - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Alvaro Herrera
Subject Re: Usage of epoch in txid_current
Date
Msg-id 20190624174303.GA7019@alvherre.pgsql
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In response to Re: Usage of epoch in txid_current  (Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>)
Responses Re: Usage of epoch in txid_current  (Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>)
Re: Usage of epoch in txid_current  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On 2019-Jun-22, Alexander Korotkov wrote:

> 2. Also introduce FullMultixactId, and apply to MultixactId the
> similar change as #1.
> 3. Change SLRU on-disk format to handle 64-bit xids and multixacts.
> In particular make SLRU page numbers 64-bit too.  Add SLRU upgrade
> procedure to pg_upgrade.

I think enlarging multixacts to 64 bits is a terrible idea.  I would
rather get rid of multixacts completely; zheap is proposing not to use
multixacts at all, for example.  The amount of bloat caused by
pg_multixact data is already pretty bad ... because of which requiring
pg_multixact to be rewritten by pg_upgrade would cause a severe slowdown
for upgrades.  (It worked for FSM because the volume is tiny, but that's
not the case for multixact.)

I think the pg_upgrade problem can be worked around by creating a new
dir pg_multixact64 (an example) which is populated from the upgrade
point onwards; so you keep the old data unchanged, and new multixacts
use the new location, but the system knows to read the old one when
reading old tuples.  But, as I said above, I would rather not have
multixacts at all.

Another idea: create a new table AM that mimics heapam (I think ß-heap
"eszett-heap" is a good name), except that it reuses zheap's idea of
keeping "transaction locks" separately for tuple locks rather than
multixacts; heapam continues to use 32bits multixact.  Tables can be
migrated from heapam to ß-heap (alter table ... set access method) to
incrementally reduce reliance on multixacts going forward.  No need for
pg_upgrade-time disruption.

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