Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.
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Msg-id 20150423154125.GA31856@momjian.us
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In response to Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.  (Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>)
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 06:24:00PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> >I've often wondered if there was some way we could consolidate XMIN/XMAX
> >from multiple tuples at the page level; that could be a big win for OLAP
> >environments where most of your tuples belong to a pretty small range of
> >XIDs. In many workloads you could have 80%+ of the tuples in a table
> >having a single inserting XID.
> 
> It would be doable for xmin - IIRC someone even posted a patch for
> that years ago - but xmax (and ctid) is difficult. When a tuple is
> inserted, Xmax is basically just a reservation for the value that
> will be put there later. You have no idea what that value is, and
> you can't influence it, and when it's time to delete/update the row,
> you *must* have the space for that xmax. So we can't
> opportunistically use the space for anything else, or compress them
> or anything like that.

Also SELECT FOR UPDATE uses the per-row xmax too.

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