Re: REVIEW: Track TRUNCATE via pgstat - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Alvaro Herrera
Subject Re: REVIEW: Track TRUNCATE via pgstat
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Msg-id 20141216142937.GX1768@alvh.no-ip.org
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In response to Re: REVIEW: Track TRUNCATE via pgstat  (Alex Shulgin <ash@commandprompt.com>)
Responses Re: REVIEW: Track TRUNCATE via pgstat  (Alex Shulgin <ash@commandprompt.com>)
Re: REVIEW: Track TRUNCATE via pgstat  (Alex Shulgin <ash@commandprompt.com>)
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Alex Shulgin wrote:

> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> Another idea would be exposing pgstat_report_stat(true) at SQL level.
> >> That would eleminate the need for explicit pg_sleep(>=0.5), but we'll
> >> still need the wait_for_... call to make sure the collector has picked
> >> it up.
> >
> > We already have a stats test that sleeps.  Why not add this stuff there,
> > to avoid making another test slow?
> 
> Well, if we could come up with a set of statements to test that would
> produce the end result unambigously, so that we can be certain the stats
> we check at the end cannot be a result of neat interaction of buggy
> behavior...

It is always possible that things work just right because two bugs
cancel each other.

> I'm not sure this is at all possible, but I know for sure it will make
> debugging the possible fails harder.

Surely if some other patch introduces a failure, nobody will try to
debug it by looking only at the failures of this test.

> Even with the current approach of checking the stats after every
> isolated case it's sometimes takes quite a little more than a glance
> to verify correctness due to side-effects of rollback (ins/upd/del
> counters are still updated), and the way stats are affecting the dead
> tuples counter.

Honestly I think pg_regress is not the right tool to test stat counter
updates.  It kind-of works today, but only because we don't stress it
too much.  If you want to create a new test framework for pgstats, and
include some tests for truncate, be my guest.

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