On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 04:11:30PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2014-10-03 10:07:39 -0400, Gregory Smith wrote:
> > On 10/3/14, 8:26 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> > >#define NUM_XLOGINSERT_LOCKS 1
> > >tps = 52.711939 (including connections establishing)
> > >#define NUM_XLOGINSERT_LOCKS 8
> > >tps = 286.496054 (including connections establishing)
> > >#define NUM_XLOGINSERT_LOCKS 16
> > >tps = 346.113313 (including connections establishing)
> > >#define NUM_XLOGINSERT_LOCKS 24
> > >tps = 363.242111 (including connections establishing)
> >
> > Just to clarify: that 10% number I threw out was meant as a rough estimate
> > for a system with the default configuration, which is all that I tested. It
> > seemed like people would likely need to tune all the usual things like
> > checkpoint_segments, shared_buffers, etc. as well before seeing much better.
> > You did all that, and sure enough the gain went up; thanks for confirming my
> > guess.
> >
> > I still don't think that means this needs a GUC for 9.4. Look at that jump
> > from 1 to 8. The low-hanging fruit here hasn't just been knocked off. It's
> > been blended into a frozen drink, poured into a glass, and had a little
> > paper umbrella put on top. I think that's enough for 9.4. But, yes, let's
> > see if we can add delivery to the side of the pool in the next version too.
>
> So 25% performance on a relatively small machine improvements aren't
> worth a GUC? That are likely to be larger on a bigger machine?
>
> I utterly fail to see why that's a service to our users.
Well, I think the issue is that having a GUC that can't reasonably be
tuned by 95% of our users is nearly useless. Few users are going to run
benchmarks to see what the optimal value is.
I remember Informix had a setting that had no description except "try
different values to see if it helps performance" --- we don't want to do
that.
What if we emit a server message if the setting is too low? That's how
we handle checkpoint_segments.
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