On 2013-04-10 20:39:25 +0200, Boszormenyi Zoltan wrote:
> 2013-04-10 18:46 keltezéssel, Fujii Masao írta:
> >On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> >>On 2013-04-10 10:10:31 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >>>Amit Kapila <amit.kapila@huawei.com> writes:
> >>>>On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:42 PM Samrat Revagade wrote:
> >>>>>Sorry, this is incorrect. Streaming replication continuous, master is not
> >>>>>waiting, whenever the master writes the data page it checks that the WAL
> >>>>>record is written in standby till that LSN.
> >>>>I am not sure it will resolve the problem completely as your old-master can
> >>>>have some WAL extra then new-master for same timeline. I don't remember
> >>>>exactly will timeline switch feature
> >>>>take care of this extra WAL, Heikki can confirm this point?
> >>>>Also I think this can serialize flush of data pages in checkpoint/bgwriter
> >>>>which is currently not the case.
> >>>Yeah. TBH this entire discussion seems to be "let's cripple performance
> >>>in the normal case so that we can skip doing an rsync when resurrecting
> >>>a crashed, failed-over master". This is not merely optimizing for the
> >>>wrong thing, it's positively hazardous. After a fail-over, you should
> >>>be wondering whether it's safe to resurrect the old master at all, not
> >>>about how fast you can bring it back up without validating its data.
> >>>IOW, I wouldn't consider skipping the rsync even if I had a feature
> >>>like this.
> >>Agreed. Especially as in situations where you fall over in a planned
> >>way, e.g. for a hardware upgrade, you can avoid the need to resync with
> >>a littlebit of care.
> >It's really worth documenting that way.
> >
> >>So its mostly in catastrophic situations this
> >>becomes a problem and in those you really should resync - and its a good
> >>idea not to use a normal rsync but a rsync --checksum or similar.
> >If database is very large, rsync --checksum takes very long. And I'm concerned
> >that most of data pages in master has the different checksum from those in the
> >standby because of commit hint bit. I'm not sure how rsync --checksum can
> >speed up the backup after failover.
Its not about speed, its about correctness.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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